I run 400 gph and up pumps on my setups with a 1k over them, 6inch exhaust fan and 1 lower and 1 higher oscillating fans.....my temps never go above 75 in the water, thats the highest its been when it was 100 outside, usually its 70 or so I use the 3/4 fitting from EBB n FLOW, they have a proper gasket that seals to the inside of the bucket and you tighten them down, I also throw some teflon tape around the threads for good measure, never have a leak All of my lines are 3/4 inch black hydrofarm brand line, gravity is your friend here My weekly isnt much at all, just standard cleaning around the plants and such....during the once a week empty and refill, I take out the filter from the pump and clean it out good, I take my hose and blast the control tub with a hard spray just to get whatever funk off the sides, i rub it with my hands too to help out a lil.....ONE thing that I do that is key for me atleast....is replace all the lines each cycle, for $25 its well worth it IMO.....ya never can seem to get the tiny little slime out of the lines IME........I basically follow the USELESS GH 3 part to a T.......I also run hygrozyme with my high grade peroxide
Thanks to work my trip is now tomorrow, but I have a good idea of what I need. What the hell is this and do I need it. The guys at the store were telling me to buy some product that breaks done dead roots. Do I need it? I'm running useless as well, so I'm kinda at a loss when you are talking about hygrozyme and peroxide. Do you run these with plain ph d water for a day, or add them to you nutes? Is there even a need to run ph'd water once a week with RDWC? Thanks again for all the help guys, totally noob on the hydro but I thinnk I'm going to like it once I get settled in to my grove. It seems like it is less work daily but a pain in the ass two nights a week with this DWC.
Id suggest using the hygrozyme myself, it really helps keeping things in check when your plants are smaller and there's more light on your buckets which gets them a goood bit hotter, when you get a nice bush over your bucket, things get alot cooler.... If you reread the entire USELESS write up he speaks of using the 35% food grade peroxide......I can only find the 29% myself and it seems to do great....the hygrozyme, I added for MY routine and it works perfectly for me.... YES YEP and UH-HUH! Do the once a week routine, its NO biggie, empty it out and fill it up, woohoo man, come on, drop like 10ml of ph down to tap water if your using it and youll be good.....its a must to keep things perfectly healthy and have a care free run of total success.....i tried the 2 weeker, easier for me and I got a SHIT result.......lesson learned....good luck NIP
This weekly thing you do....is it the feeding? Cause following the formula says to flush on Thurs. (or what ever day you choose) Which is empty and fill with weekly nutes, than Sunday (or what ever day you choose) empty again and fill with PH 5.5 water for the flush. Am I missing something when you say once a week empty and refill???
he just asked what my routine was thats all.... The only thing I do for the 6 days of growing is check my PH and clean the plants up......7th day I drain and refil with fresh water for a day then the next day I add my nutes and repeat the cycle as normal is that what u mean?
No I know, I don't want to piss you off just checking to see if i am doing it right. Or draining one to many times a week. Do you use tap water with ph starting at 6.5 or...? I reread the 13 page thread of Useless formula and I know see what you meant about the once a week thing with RO water. nip for stepping on the thread.
come on man....u aint pissin me off...i must really be a prick, lol I use my garden hose to fill everything up:roffl: No RO here... I fill it up, my tap is 7.0.....then I add about 10ml of ph down, 29% perox, bout 100ml of hygrozyme......wait 24hr, then add my regular nutes, check it next day and adjust if needed
Haha, That answered my questions also, I oringinal misread Useless thread and after going back and re reading I think I got it down. I sent you a pm CC but I think you answered it here for the most part. I did run a tote just for experm. Filled yesterday and added nutes last night, this morning ph was still 6.4 but it's a lot better than the 8 that I started with. I guess I will still be using ph down, just not nearly as much. I wonder if I knock it down a few points in the original fill if my ph will be spot on? Take it from 8ish to mid 7's then add nutes wait a day. I really need get to store though, I havent played the ph game with and it's starting to show, got some leaf twist on one plant. I was trying to avoid ph'ing as they'll be in a new home in less than 4 hours, and I original thought I was supposed to be doing 2 changes a week, thanks Blah, lol (j/k). Seriuosly guys thanks, been a very informative thread and I think I know exactly what I'm doing know. I hate looking like such a noob, but it paid off this time as I know what I'm doing even though I havent done it yet
Just so I know I am doing this right. (I pick Sun) Sunday I fill system to desired level and add PH down (amount?) and wait 24 hrs. Than add nutes and adjust ph throughout the week till next Sunday? If this is the case than I have been doing waaaaaay to much. What does the 29% perox, bout 100ml of hygrozyme do to the system? Does it help clean out system and help root rot?
Blah, if you read useless I don't even think he ph's down on the first day. It looks like steel does and I think I may some since I ran the trial yesterday. and PH was still high this morning. I think it is day 1..Water with h2o2 and enzyme (adding about 15 ml of down water is about 8 ish in my case) day 2.. Nutes day 3.. PH if needed Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, actually please correct me if I'm wrong becuase that's what my plan is. Need to rename thread RDWC for Dummies :roffl: Atleast I'm not as confused as I was, and think I have it, getting parts now and throwing together, lets hope for no leaks!!!
You've been emptying.....refilling then emptying that too? then refilling again 24hr later it sounds like irght? Thats crazyness :rofl6: The perox helps clean the root system and the lines as well as the hygrozyme, if you have temps a bit higher than desired then the hygro will seriously help keep any type of root rot in check or if the random leaf tip gets in the mix somehow
Wow!! Thanks guy's, I have been wasting a lot of water. Starting today its once a week. Do you think anything should go wrong starting a different regiment week 6 flower? This is a very useful thread since I have been doing my way for at least a yr now. :BangHead: :BangHead: :BangHead:
Yea Blah, you are doing it wrong. Wasting a ton of nutes in the process and not giving your plants enough food for the week. LOL. I detailed the timing for change outs in PM, as CC and others have done here. I dont use the Hygrozyme in DWC. Only for the first week of veg on reused hydroton to make sure all the dead root matter is eaten away. Other than that, it seems to have potential for more problems than it is beneficial for. H2O2 does not kill enzymes, but on a chemical level it does "excite" them, causing them work faster and harder, but they die. Dead cellular matter in the res is a perfect food source for pythium and many other bacteria. That is why I don't use it.
Well, fuck me then.....good thing im almost out of it i guess Seemed to do me right tho.....ah shit!:roffl:
Great!!!:BangHead: :BangHead: :BangHead: So any problem starting this way in week 6 of flower? I use Sm90 and cal mag...those are fine... right??
well fuck, I just bought a bottle of hygrozyme!! You owe $33 CC!!:roffl: :roffl: What's the deal with Aquasheild?? Did I just waste $14? Was told this helps break down solution so they can stan heavier feeds, and helps with root issues. Atleast everyone has taken a blow on this thread. Also, using 1/2" returns with gromets, store told me that they would replace everything at their cost if doesn't work. Said they are weary about using ebb fittings on round bucket, they have in the past but they also had leakers in the past. Supposedly, they replace buckets, fittings and all if this does work how it's suppose to.
for the late return... NIce little thread here very informative. I will say this about putting ebb n flow outlets on a bucket. Leave both gaskets on the inside and use teflon tape as CC stated. Make it AS TIGHT AS POSSIBLE without striping it. IF you gouged the hole a little by not drilling it dead on straight use some silicon to help seal the deal. My routine for my drain n fill is on Sunday I drain the system using a spare 250gph pump and some 1/2" tubing long enough to hit the nearest drain. The pump has the filter box off of it so I can lay it face down and get 90% of the water off the bottom. I spray out the res and suck it back out again then fill it up with water and let it run 24hrs. I add the nutes using the useless formula plus 3 gals or so as I elaborated in my last post. Let that run for 24 hrs check the ph it's usually about 6.7 add my down and check it everyday just to make sure it's on point. Once I have a system running for a while I add the down with the nutes just because I know within reason what it needs to be on point. But I still check at least once throughout the week. For my 6 bucket I use a 600gph for the 4 bucket I use a 250gph. All returns are 3/4" order them from here. It's not illegal to buy this stuff I don't know why ppl get in a huff about ordering this shit online. I order from here and shipped shit is still cheaper than getting it at my local that hits you with MSRP pricing. http://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/34-ebb-flow-tub-outlet-fitting-p-1653.html Don't forget the screens http://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/ebb-flow-tub-outlet-screen-p-1655.html I don't use any peroxide or hygrozyme just the useless and bushmaster which I add using the fert base supplied. I do it second and third week of flower at half strength of the bottle. I may be tweaking this in the future since I am planning a different approach and may need to utilize some stretching to get the shape I want. As for bacteria and algae control I try to keep them in check by keeping the res dark and outside the growing area also chilled water. If the water is kept below 70F slime will not flourish. *sidenote I have the DIY res chiller assembled and tested but need to update the thread once my system is back in action which will be Labor Day weekend...Steelcity
and we have a leak!!! Got silicone on it but the plants are sitting in a tote not looking happy about waitin 3 hours to get into their new homes.