Is there absolutely any evidence of that in regards to ice cream. Any....we are talking about a man that loves fast food. It's like when they ran a story about him putting ketchup on steak. I can't even tell if you are serious. Nk, that's an issue worth discussing. Bombs prob will be dropped over that, not an emp though, nk is already in stone age. More than likely it's be way worse. But that brings up another point, when he did talk about nk he actually was dogged on that as well, should I link articles? He said he's willing to sit down with them if conditions are met, and the left...oh my god...the sky is failing I can't believe he's prais8ng an evil dictator. Not that hey look, he's trying to avoid an all out war that will kill millions and millions of people....its he secretly loves dictatorships. That makes sense if you oppose war right? Show me where I called Trump a libertarian, pretty pretty please. Or how you would even confuse that I did....where did I give you that notion? Because I said that Trump needs the freedom caucus to move his agenda forward? That this played out in the house with healthcare and is doing the same in Senate. That equates to calling him a libertarian? Pretty sure that I said libertarians finally have a voice at the table, healthcare has proven that. And then you go on with straight talking points about medicaid.....the horror the horror. Giving states more power in healthcare is wrong? Giving options of block grants or per capita spending is wrong? Wow news to me. Oh what you are saying is states should get extra money, money that they don't even spend on medical care for the poor because it's under federal budget as medicaid? And taxation is theft, I'm not about tax cuts, lol. You obviously don't agree with libertarians position at all....since that offends you so much. .because you are literally c9mplaining about our position but habe literally proved my point, that a small party of folks now have a major say in Washington. Somehow that equates everyone being far right. Even though so far the exact opposite is true. For the record, how many libertarians caucus with dems? We tried that with obama and got fucked. And how do you suppose moving forward, let's stall Congress for next 4 years so we don't get any relief on marijuana issues. Makes sense. Or keep Obama care, that makes even more sense. I live in a tristate area....major city is in my state, those people that live 15 min from me shouldn't access to our doctors right? That's literally what you arguing by fighting aga8nst Obama care reform. Or what is now 1 in 3 counties have 1 or less doctors with obamavsre...sounds great. Or the fact that deductibles are so fucking high under it, that you can't afford to go to doctor. You know if you add prem and deductible Obama care is way higher than Cadillac plans. How does that makes sense to you? Pretty easy to bitch, hard to actually c9me up with solutions...oh shit now I sound like CNN lol I am amused that you would shit on libertarians though, if I wasn't on my phone is go back point. I was amused by second amendment, you may wanna look up his nra speeches and not aomethimg he said years ago. Or even the gay marriage thing, you honestly think that one day poof, government will stop issuing marriage licenses? Because that's another straw man, as a libertarian yeap our position is government shouldn't be in that biz, but it is, so morally we think they shouldn't deny same sex couples the ability to choose how they marry. Because it's a fantasy to say it would stop all together. You still have looked up any of Paul's bills he's putting forth right? You don't think those are going to pass so Trump can get his agenda thru. Or massie trying to block probation officer act that expanded their power....fucking republicans, always sticking up for criminals And what exactly is your alternative to all this? Please spell it out, because you have to pick a party.....like libertarians have....so you think dems are better? The ones that actually have a history of locking us up....dictacting marriage, controlling every aspect of life. Fucking up healthcare, and schools...theres another brilliant idea, common core. You must love that right. You know they teach kids how to count money by counting the corners on money....thats you plan to save america....let that sink in, go count the corners on a quarter and tell me how you are right. And that's leaving the social aspect out of it since I've made my disdain for that perfectly clear
I just got back in touch with some of my old friends at Dewey, Cheatam & Howe down in NYC. I asked them if they could launch a lobbying effort to get a company I just started a tax break and a new local law passed that creates barriers to entry into my company's market, and also removes government oversight of my industry. They said sure, just give up 1.2 million dollars. Hmm. Don't have it. Well, I went to a bank and asked them to loan me the dough. Bank says sure, but only if I deposit ALL my profits with them, and allow them to take comparably large "fees." Not a kickback, mind you. The deal is done. I'm raking in the dough, no one can compete with me, and when my customers complain about me gouging them I say "oh so sorry. But hey its just business. Write your congressman (you know, the one I bought off to get my protective laws)." I can afford to be dismissive of my customers. They have no where else to go. Now we see trump coming. Oh no. He's gonna put the brakes on all this. He is going to stop the unfair fleecing of America. He will stop the flow of money from the working class Americans to corporate CEO's. Even though i told him I need a thirteenth mansion in Malibu and my fleet of vintage cars need gas, he cares not for the plight of the fabulously wealthy. No pork!
That's actually how shit works, thanks to dodd Frank act. Join the winning side so we can equal it out. Right now I'm trying to figure out how a gf survives so we can get her thru court til I land a contract worst case place her with someone I've written plans for. But there's that huge thing between Fed and state laws. Like I keep trying to tell you, you will always be welcome in my home, even though you hate me...i don't feel the same. We are supposed to protect each other and help out. You hate me because I don't agree with your politics, that shit is on you...dont act like I'm the same or stupid because I dnt have 8vy league education. My senior summer was spent on parris island, I'm grateful for that. I'm a smart cookie, scored so high on asvab it stated a scene....i know how to call balls and strikes even Thu I don't have paper. It's why o get paid what I do. I'm above ivy league kids in my field You still haven't listed anything...im waiting to hear collusion. Like I'm trying to you, stop with the hate, we finally got this shit. Some may call you a name or two, it's ok...we got this. Or we can all get fucked while we study Russia Russia Russia
"We actually have a chance, and you wanna flush that done is how I see it. I'm a libertarian, my side finally has a voice. I love Trump for that. The little guys that want to be left alone because they finally need us." Trump is the voice of Libertarians?
Nope, but yes the only one that has least us speak so far. Pretty sure you're side says we are slave owners and hate minorities. When in reality we are the only ones that treat the as equals
Your own words posted to verify your position that Trump is a voice for Libertarians.....after you challenge somebody to point out where you said such a thing. Then you go off and boast about a threesome rather than own your words. You and DJT got a lot in common. Dude, I'm bowing out again since other people's safety and lives seems to be a joke to you. I find nothing to laugh about where it concerns these matters.
No man, pointing out we ain't the sticks in the mud like you think. Even thru politics I think all of us have enough in common to look out for each other...it worries me the feeling isn't mutual
Talk about straw men. I don't hate you I'm angry about the daily pounding you and I take. That we all take. All but trump and the donor elites. Which you seem to have me confused with. My pitchfork has trumps name on it not yours. I ridicule because I'm incredulous. Maybe not the best attitude. I would like it if maybe somebody could give me a reasoned and logical argument in favor of some facet of trump. but so far what I get is "join the winning team" which I interpret as fuck you. you either ignore the harm buying power causes or you don't understand it. Or maybe your just greedy? Can anyone make an argument in favor of lobbying? To me it's just sanctioned bribery and the heart of what's wrong.
That I'm glad to hear, like I've told you, we have same end goal just how we get there. Fuck politics, we are all going to do what's convenient for us. But that doesn't mean we are enemies and shouldn't look out for each other. The hate is so strong it worries me, not with you just in general. But I hope you can understand the reason I feel the way I do. Ain't no one looking out for us but each other. Dropping a shitload of cash to get gf out of trouble because she's one of us....same as I would do for you or anyone else here. Friendship should mean something
Oh btw I am encouragable.....i truly am deplorable. But not a bad a person I just want what I worked so hard for
Nippie, for ten years I've held you in the highest esteem. I know for sure, I would never intentionally steal from you, or even knowingly consume a scarce resource that you needed. I share (most of the time) and if we were in a boat adrift at sea with like ten crackers left, I'd expect we'd each get 5. The concept of basic fairness seems lost on all these fancy economists and slick talkers. For instance when I googled "lobbying vs. bribery" I get this stuff - "Corruption is seen as endemic and at the heart of the systemic failure in some countries. Bribery is considered illegal, while lobbying is not. Bribery is considered a sale of power. However, lobbying is considered an influence of political power by offering contributions that affect political outcomes." Now maybe if i mix it up just right I get something that won't make me PUKE MY FUCKIN GUTS OUT Lets try this: Corruption is seen as endemic and at the heart of the systemic failure in some countries. [Ding ding ding! there is a reason it is seen as such, Einstein. Why don't you just say it - corruption in American politics is as common as fleas on a cat, and will absolutely cause our system to collapse.] Bribery is considered illegal, while lobbying is not [not by me!] Bribery is considered a sale of power. [No. Bribery IS the sale of power.] However, lobbying is considered an influence of political power by offering contributions [$$$ MONEY] that affect political outcomes [the result of POWER]. To me, lobbying = bribery. No way around it. My political platform begins with the complete and total elimination of "lobbying." You are pissing on my shoes and telling me it's raining. Fuck you that everybody can do it. That's another argument that lobbying is ok. That everyone can do it. But those with a million bucks do it oh so much better. So money is the ultimate good? Gets you everything? ha ha ha The new God is money, annointed by our unthinking tolerance of corruption. Its really just as simple as that. Get rid of lobbying, and you get rid of people who are in it for the money, not the common good. You allow lobbying, then you get the rich kid in the boat who wants to slip the captain a cool half mil to give him all the crackers. The deep down, in my gut, hard as a rock and ready to blow reaction to that is FUCK YOU YOU SELFISH PIECE OF SHIT Come take my crackers. Just remember, I'm a good ol' boy too. As low as you can go, I've been forced by circumstance to go even lower. The boat is small, the ocean vast. Full of sharks. This is no joke guys. Until we get someone in there who eliminates lobbying - the debasement of our society - the sucking of cock for the highest payer - we are doomed. We will kill each other over petty squabbles while the rich get richer. So where is the argument that buying power is good for us? Don't just say buying power is bad, but purchasing influence is good. Don't insult my intelligence. It is infuriating. How stupid are the masses, to allow this shit? I say to America, and especially to trump supporters- grow a set. Be a man. Stand up to rich kids buying power. Sharpen your pitch forks, light your torches. Claim your rightful share of the crackers, for you are no less. Guess where the guy who tries to get more than his share of crackers goes? Off the boat. Or maybe not. maybe that's a vote of sacrifice. maybe I could get 100 crackers out of his thigh alone....
To those of you so dedicated to lobbying as a way life, consider this: the one law no one can buy is the law outlawing buying laws. We are fucked.
Paul is one of only two people here I shared my crackers with. I'm really looking forward to trying his crackers. And what you said about lobbying, I've been harping on that my whole life.
Now keep in mind that I smoke a lot of weed and I'm a deplorable but as I remember it was either Trump or Hillary. So with all this arguing are you trying to say that Hillary would have been a better choice? Excuse me for a minute, I have to go rinse the puke out of my mouth at just the thought of it. So someone who has committed the crimes she did, smashing her phones, erasing her emails and destroying all her computers AFTER being subpoenaed for them and ARE crimes and giving the Russians 20% of our Uranium while getting HUNDREDS of millions ( I believe it was billions but I'm not looking it up right now) of dollars for doing it and besides that she was in power for a LONG time but actually did NONE of the things she always said she would do. She also stole thousands of dollars of property from the White House when she and Billy boy left ( and even taking all the letters off the key boards ) are you saying that these things weren't enough to persuade you to vote for someone else? These are the things that are stuck in my mind right now and I know that there is a LOT MORE laws that she has broken and a LOT of others that couldn't actually be proven, including murder. If that isn't reason enough or logical enough for you, nothing will satisfy you. Trump may not have been my first choice when all this started but bye the time the final election came, I saw no other choice. I couldn't vote for a career criminal to lead my country.
OK nip, i'll give up the russia thing, and the two scoops, and even his tax returns, and his bad jokes..... But i would still like to see his school report cards... Just to better understand the man...
Nobody is saying Hillary is a good choice. Roast the bitch for all I care. But Trump isn't good either. To pretend he is....well that's just foolish. He's just another oligarch/plutocrat who doesn't happen to be a Clinton. By pretending he's anything else gives his administration credibility it doesn't deserve. A vote of desperation or frustration is one thing, wholesale acceptance of horrid policies that actually harm people is another. One is understandable, the other is just being gullible. And according to Trump that's the same as actually being in the military. A $31K a year boarding school and DJT thinks that's the same as military service. I don't dislike anybody in this thread. But if somebody ignores actual increasing risk to my personal freedom and safety because it gets in the way of their politics? I'll call them out. Every time. Then I'll offer them a cut from my garden and hope they eventually wise up before we're all fucked worse than we already are.
I'm tired of my own anger. I'm just as much of an jerk as trump. For what its worth I don't spare myself the same rage.