what i really wish is that trump was what he could have been - a game changer. He could have truly broken the power buying cycle. It's what we wanted. To get away from politicians who made a career out of shouldering their way to the edge of the trough. To me the real problem in governing is that it's for sale. Because we tolerate - even condone - buying power, what that means is the loudest voice , the strongest hand, the deepest pocket, gets their way. Might makes right. It is about as far away from representative democracy as you can get, without stepping off into dictator land. It's fancy hidden dictatorship. What I wanted was somebody to come in and stop it all. Stop the buying of laws that favor your company. Stopping the tax breaks, the huge wasteful government contracts given to the guy paying the kickback, all the cheating and manipulating and to constituents. I mean it almost goes without saying now that a politician will cater to the masses and promise whatever you want - anything! - right up until they get into office, then they are too busy worrying about the next election and getting some skin in the game to actually push change that will help guys like us. Normal, non-filthy rich guys. And that's not a Republican or Democrat thing - they all do it. It's just like we sat down to play monopoly and an hour into the game one of the players says "New rule. Every time you roll the dice you have to pay me $100." Would you say "oh OK" and just keep playing, even while loosing? Or would you say "Who the fuck do you think you are? can't just make up rules as you go along!" What I see as happening is that the big players in the game figure out that they can BUY new rules, and then load up the shopping cart. I should clarify - I was just as sick to death of it all when Clinton was president, and the bushes, and Obama, and I have no faith that Hillary wold have been the game changer I want. I could totally jump on the trump band wagon if he would use his power to stop the sale of power. But instead by all appearances and even by his own admission he is doing the opposite - he's got our country propped up on the block, and is hawking his wares like the hot dog guy at a baseball game. "Hot soup! Getcha hot soup here! Hot dogs! Popcorn! dollars!" Trump has a positive genius for saying the exact wrong thing at the wrong time. He just always comes off as an ignorant, arrogant, irresponsible, rash, angry child who dodges hard questions, deflects, blames, etc. Now he's giving Russia intelligence secrets. How do you think our allies feel about that? How about the assets we have in the field who will get skinned alive - on youtube for the kids to see - if they are made? I mean he's just such a total fuckwad - even worse than me - I just can't help but ooze hate from every pore. It's like watching a movie where you go "no don't open the door to the basement with the lights out. Don't do it. Don't do it. Oh! See now you are getting raped by a zombie." I just feel betrayed. Like I said fuck you to the new monopoly rule, and then looked to my friends for agreement and find them going "oh ok. Here's my $100. play on" mty said it best - this is just venting. "or are you seriously saying locker room talk doesn't happen" The fact that it happens is not exculpatory. Rape happens. Does that mean I want a president who rapes? I'm not coming at this from a holier than thou place. There's a reason I pray my daughters are lesbians, and that is I know what males are like. I'm a pig meself, and sometimes unapologetic about it. But here's the difference - I'm not running for President, and if I was I would be ashamed to be caught saying a ton of stuff I've said. Because I know I shouldn't be a pig. Just like I know I shouldn't be a racist, or a bigot in any way. But I am a little here and there - I just can't help it. But I want to not be, and what I see is trump acting like it's OK to be a pig, when it's not. I see him setting an example of behavior that I do not find laudable in any way. The problem is not that he said or even did piggy things. I can't hold that against any man, or I'd hate the world (more than I do). What I hold against him is that he didn't do what I would have done. I would have felt guilty and said "You're right. I'm not presidential material. I am not an example to model ones behavior after." That's what I would have said at a PTA meeting if they caught me screwing the bus attendant. Why is my way right? Because, like it or not, the President is viewed as the embodiment of our collective best hope. His photo graces the halls of our hallowed institutions. What I would not tolerate in a high school principal, I do not tolerate in the President of the United States. That is the use of power for sexual gratification so purely selfish and unthinking as to the possible effects of the behavior that it rises to a level of actual condemn-able evil. You know we punish teachers who fuck their students, right? I have three daughters, 10, 11 12. I live in an affluent suburb. I am not in the woods. yet. But i will be some day, and at that time your accusations of being out of touch with mainstream "reality" will be correct. For now, I'm at a grade school or middle school every day of the week. I'm on the PTA board. I just got home from my middle daughters spring band concert at the middle school. The school district is overwhelmingly white -like 96% - which is more indicative of culture than anything else. Trashy behavior can be found in any race or culture. Even rich white guys from NY. I have a friend - rich white guy - nailed his babysitter. He was like 45 she was 19. A week later she says she's pregnant. Just imagine the conversations we had. Just think for a minute or two.
DJT is everything the important men in my life taught me not to be. Perfection is never expected, human decency is. DJT is the ultimate cuck. You're mad at the asshole politicians, so you back another, bigger, asshole. Yup. Pure logic there.
what intel to the russians? really, like i posted earlier, the same intel that wapo ran stories on in march....seriously?? thats the highly classified material, something the general public knew back in march, that bans were already in place over. but i still would like to know where people like me fit in, in your world. we've established that you've grown up wealthy, and your kids will too. but what about all of us that didn't. we're just trash right? should i even be allowed to hold my job for comments that I have made? should my children be taking away because i don't think it's ok for boys and girls to shower together in middle school? exactly where do people like me fit in...you know since we are half the country, we may not be the high class elites with silver spoons, but we are the backbone of this shithole. and it must be a rich white thing then about the schools, i can tell you most of white trash hay rakes in fly over country are pretty upset about this. seen the petition at my sons school, just one school in the district and it had hundreds of signatures on it, when all was said and done, the school board canceled their meeting and suspended the plan on allowing 'trans' kids to opt which bathroom/shower facility they want....because it's a fucking fad, it's not real...its made up BS. and res, that is logic, because it's the one man that will fuck up the entire system....intentionally or not. because some of us want to change the system. DJT may be a cuck, but at least he's not telling me that i'm a piece of shit, that my kids are pieces of shit. look at whos running DNC, big money (perez), and a card carrying member of a hate group.....if anyone supports that, it makes them a cuck too
LOL I told you I was not a rich kid. Either you don't read what I write (really can't blame you) or you speak something other than English. Saying "the guys before him did it too!" is not a defense. Two wrongs don't make it right. And I was far less worried about Obama doing something foolish and rash than I am our current president. At least Obama understood the nature of the job. Trump is too buy playing golf. As of May 8th, 2017, the golf tally: Obama - 1 Trump - 15 Donald J. Trump ✔@realDonaldTrump Can you believe that,with all of the problems and difficulties facing the U.S., President Obama spent the day playing golf.Worse than Carter 8:03 PM - 13 Oct 2014 Yep, he's the guy for me! Anticipating cries of fake news from the trump camp, I have my feelers out for such things. If you think the golf tally is fake news, just google trump and golf vs obama. You can decide for yourself if it's fake news. Given the fact that COUNTING is actually possible, and I suspect that the NY Times, CNN, Marketwatch, Business Insider, and Golf Magazine have mastered that skill, I am pretty sure that Trump is playing way more golf as President than Obama did. How many times did Trump tweet criticisms of Obama's golf playing? Anyone? Anyone? Cue Sean Spicer or Kelly-anne Conjob - what trump meant by "playing golf" was playing a full 18 hole round of golf while following the rules of the game. That's what Obama did. What trump did is hit balls out into the woods, walk 300 yards to drop a new ball in the fairway, hit that ball into the woods, walk to the green and drop another new ball, which he then putts into a sand trap. Drops another ball a foot from the hole. Knocks it in after 3 or 4 tries. Marks his score card birdie. That, arguably is not golf. So your comparing apples to oranges.
All I know is what i can't tolerate, and that's someone cheating me, stealing from me, to me, strong-arming me, for selfish reasons. That shit makes me really mad. I don't do it to others, and I demand the same in return. Whether you're my neighbor, a co-worker, a friend, a cop, whoever - I won't tolerate being mistreated. Just because government is wrapped in the myth of legitimacy doesn't spare them the requirement of fair dealing. The sly, piss-on-your-shoes-and-tell-you-it's-raining, trickster type of abuse makes me even madder. Employers are some of the worst offenders. If trump did ONE handsome thing I'd be overjoyed. But instead he takes every opportunity to do or say something at best neutral, at worst totally repugnant. Even stuff he does that I agree with- his response to Syria using chemical weapons for example- is tainted by his idiot cast of cartoon characters. If trump himself doesn't act foolish, we can count on spicer or sessions or Flynn to step up and lampoon our country. Ive said several times that I don't have an answer to the question "if not trump then who?" But I am a total shithead and can spot another a mile away.
I have no clue what you are referring to and you are all over the place. It's going to be a long 8 years for ya, you may want to stop watching CNN 24 hours a day. You cite fake news (Russia top secret info) then complain about fake news in regards to golf. Once again, the praise for obama, it only reinforces the notion in my head that you would want me in prison and my kids raised in foster care because I don't agree with your politics
"It's going to be a long 8 years for ya, you may want to stop watching CNN 24 hours a day." Rofl, this.
White privilege. Hmmm, I'm white and grow up in a housing project. When I was introduced to my friends parents, they loved me. They knew I was one of the top students in school and I had manners, always had clean clothes which were ironed and was well behaved. They told their kids to keep hanging with me and that they could learn a lot from me. Then they found out where I grew up. After that their kids weren't allowed to hang out with ANY SCUMBAGS from the projects. I played sports in school and after practices had to run miles home because the kids parents who were well to do and had cars wouldn't even give my brother or me a ride part way home because of where we lived. Yup, white privilege. The good thing about that though was that I didn't have to do any running at practices because the coaches knew how far I had to run every night. I have seen and experienced jobs go to minority people, black, brown, any other color you want and even female because they needed to fill certain spots with minorities for certain criteria to be met. Some were jobs that tests were needed for and have seen and experienced people getting hired with a 75 over whites having 95's and 98's. p.s. This isn't fake news. I can't wait till all this shit is over and the investigators find Obama and Clinton guilty as they have already been found to be and this time, prosecute them. p.s.s. I fucken HATE when people claim "white privilege"!!!
....and DJT helps poor people? You're insane if you somehow construe escalating the war on drugs to be beneficial to the poor. Or cutting $800 billion in Medicaid as helpful to the poor. Or adding $50B to an already bloated military budget as helpful to the poor. Or giving a $900B tax cut to the top 1% income earners as helpful to the poor. Or removing consumer protections from student loan debt as helpful to the poor. Or enacting trade barriers that drive up of costs of normal consumables as helpful to the poor. You hear what you want to hear and are living in your anger. It blinds Trump supporters to the fact that DJT is a syphilitic alzhiemer's patient foisted on us by a failed two party system. What we need is a better educated populace whether it be trade, vo-tech, college or simply specific job training. A healthy populace that can afford to go to the Dr before illness becomes critical. A populace that isn't living with the highest incarceration rate of any country in the entire world. We need people who are educated enough, healthy enough and free enough to compete in a data based economy. Manufacturing is out the window, time to prepare and adjust is now. DJT is only promising old ideas that have already failed because the world isn't what it was 40 years ago when he last read an entire newspaper. But yeah...go on with your blind hate and anger and disgust at the system of assholes running our government. Hopefully when the bloodlust clears from your brain you won't be as disgusted as I am at your choices in how to solve it.....but I think you will be. You been conned. You're chumps. Just like the folks who thought the previous administration was going to end our wars, save our healthcare, stop bombing third world countries and rein in Wall Street. They lied. Obama voters were chumped.....just like DJT voters have been chumped. Learn from it.
Nippie. Dude. I never said I watch CNN. I don't watch tv unless it's on at a bar. I never said top secret. I never even mentioned WHAT trump told the Russians. I take it your argument is that whatever he told them, it's surely ok? Or that he might have told them stuff that's not ok, but everybody else did too so that makes it ok? What? What is your position? Anything other than personal invectives for the peanut gallery? Yeah I'm all over the place. True enough. Please stop mischaracterizing what I say. The golf thing isn't fake news! I'm not complaining about it. I'm telling you about it. I think it's great that trump plays golf so much. We're safer with him out on the golf course. It's entertaining that he's such a blatant hypocrite, and the world knows. It's weird that you don't. Saying trump golfed more than Obama is somehow praising Obama? I'm such a golf guy that Obama's game or lack of it inspires me to praise? Lol ok. Fact remains he golfed once during his first hundred days. How often did your boy golf during his first 100 days?
I'm on my phone and hella tipsy so I'll be be brief Res, I've never seen so many straw man arguments in my life, obviously you have read a single thing I've written. Quote me on praising his budget maybe then you have a case. Obviously cl8nton is our master, it was her turn in her own words....dont act like we have another option. Supremo, I'm sorry what is it msnbc? I'm sorry it was intelligence secrets...your words....that was common knowledge to everyone 2 months ago...i actually posted the links. Like I said, be hateful if you want, that's on you. It's go8ng to be a long 8 years for ya though I'll never fell bad for how I was born, I'll never teach my children that either. Sucks when you actually meet someone with balls to stand up hey? I'll never be ashamed for who I am....but go on and teach your kids that they are white devils in your privileged home. Meanwhile, the vast majority of America sides with me so good luck with that I will say it's hilarious to meet pot growers that want more government. I have a couple weeks til I perfectly legal, but people like you want me in prison.....becuase I didn't wantvhollary as my president...thats fucking sad
Sessions is the only guy who wants people in prison. Trump's guy. Not me. How is quoting Trump's own budget a straw man? Are you saying those things don't matter or won't hurt people or are good for our economy? Upbringing....really dude? Why not call me a racist or bigot or some such shit too while you're at it? Show me where anybody on GK has ever degraded you for your background. Or, where it was used as an argument to degrade your opinion. Maybe I missed it....but it sure as hell didn't come from me. Having come from privilege or poverty does not mean one's political position is valid or invalid. And think about it....you're claiming the thoughts and ideas of others aren't valid because the people sharing them are from privileged backgrounds (your claim). Have you looked at who you elected? Born, raised and living in a privileged lifestyle you and I can only imagine. How are his privileged views valid while others are not? Could it be you simply agree with him and that's the difference? That's called special pleading and is a logical fallacy.
Actually no, I understand what you are saying you aren't understanding me. I doubt you'll find a single Trump voter that thought he end spending in Washington and payoff the debt. Most of that shit will never change no matter who's on charge. I would dispute the amount though and what it aims to do....instead of headline read up on that The reason Trump won is because people are tired of the social warrior politics. That every white person is privileged, that there should not be free speech, that white males are somewhat less of a person. That's what's won Trump the presidency, that's why 97% would vote for him again. Have you seen what goes on on college campuses? Or like supremo says, the trans people just want to live life without bigotry in regards to school....which is calling me a bigot, because I don't think someone can be a boy on Monday, girl on Tuesday, boy wed and thursday, and a chick on friday.......that makes me a bigot??? Because people that have a different opinion should go to jail, not believing in climate change should not be a valuable offense. People should get hit for not being liberal The left has always been more government. More government means more laws, more jails. Drug war was it it's height under Clinton, not Reagan. Look at obama cbd is now class 1. Or the money aspect, dems rejected rules barring big money, Perez was chosen because he's in bed with big money. Ellison is/Was a card carry member of a hate group, that thinks white people are devils made by a scientist....whos openly said antisemitic things. If you don't understand why poor whites get offended by the term white privilege I don't know what to say. I will always oppose that, so Trump has my vote in 2020 as well. Im not a peice if crap, nor are my kids, i dont have white guilt because i happened to be born a certain color
Nope, can't say that I was...i more of the, how did Yale dean put it, oh yea, low class, uneducated white trash type
I understand why DJT was elected. That's not a surprise to anybody but Hillary and her sycophants like Tom Perez. I'm pissed too. Have been for years. I'm not some lib nut-tard. I come from a history of working as a volunteer on repub campaigns and as a minor executive officer within our state party. I knew how corrupt the Dems were, then I realized the repubs were just as corrupt (moreso imho). Voting out of frustration and anger isn't something I'm unfamiliar with. But when shit goes south, like it is now with DJT, and your vote of frustration starts having real impact and hurting real people. Then my friend, it's time to swallow hard and face reality. DJT is a buffoon at best. He is incurious, not intelligent, not informed, and executes incredibly poor judgement in people he surrounds himself with. His true allies have shown to be the donor class and elite in our society. Just like Hillary with less polish and more buffoonery. Mark Cuban (love him or hate him) said it best I think. He claims DJT is a real estate and branding savant like no other. In all other things he is an idiot. Pretty much sums it up. As for how growers can be for more government? Some are, some aren't. But what growers need to stand united against is any retrenchment of the war on drugs in general and push back by Feds against repealing cannabis Prohibition specifically. Yet even in this area, where it concerns DJT, you don't seem to give a fuck. Your fellow growers' safety and freedom matter less than a vote of frustration. That's what I find truly alarming in this discussion. The rest of his bullshit I find more alarming, but for a discussion on a cannabis board? This facet troubles me most.
Trumps only hope for getting anything done is with the backing of the freedom caucus. The freedom caucus are the only ones fighting to end the drug. I don't know where you been. They are actually introducing legislation to end mandatory min sentencing, trying to reclassify, try to ensure states right that have recreational. It's why rand Paul will have a voice in healthcare reform even though most gop members hate him. Yea, even I get a little bothered by some things, believing half the shit on this thread is like believing batboy was found snow boarding. Dude they ran stories about him getting 2 scoops and everyone else 1 like it was some power trip. Maybe everyone was supposed to get one and he said can I have 2? Is that not a rationale explanation. We actually have a chance, and you wanna flush that done is how I see it. I'm a libertarian, my side finally has a voice. I love Trump for that. The little guys that want to be left alone because they finally need us. And I see you guys fighting that tooth and nail over tabloid shit, shit that's not even real, it's mindnumbing. You think if dems came to Trump and said ok, we want to decriminalize weed he wouldn't do it as a peace offering? Fuck it's like abortion now because of leftists. Fuck sessions, he ain't got power, just some hick from the south that doesn't know better. I don't think he's a terrible person though, I think he do what he thinks right...that ain't us, it's ms13, it's the cartels, it the big money. People are going back to work, companies giving out cash like tomorrow, my 401k is up 17% just since election and years of shit. We have a real chance of bare min medical at a federal level because that's already came out from presidents mouth. But instead of actually doing that, moving forward with legislation we have to focus on Russia....abd you act like I'm being the asshole? I'm an asshole because I like to watch adults cry like babies, but at least I'm backing the folks actually doing something. Fuck man, write you congressman and tell him to back massies bills or your senators to back Paul's and we got this within a year. Instead Russia Russia Russia
I'm willing to let the russia thing go, but the two scoops of ice cream, that was just the king letting everyone know where they stand in relation to the king.... He was just waiting for someone, anyone, to ask for two scoops....He'd of fired them on the spot if they had... It's things like that, they show him up as the devil he is.... Let's start discussing the things that matter. Like, is it likely EMP bombs will be used, for the first time ever, to pound North Korea back to the stone age???
Trump is decidedly NOT Libertarian. I don't know what manifesto you been reading, but you may want to check up on the Libertarian platform. Bombs in Syria is not Libertarian. Muslim bans are not Libertarian. National Security DJT talks tough and seems to think that wars are an effective solution to many of our problems. Libertarians think that wars often create more problems than they solve, are bankrupting our nation, and that violence is only justified when used for defense. Foreign Policy DJT advocates more sanctions on Iran, more support for Israel, and being tough all around. Libertarians think the United States should both avoid entangling alliances and abandon its attempts to act as policeman for the world. Trade DJT thinks that foreign countries are getting the better end of trade deals and says that he would negotiate more favorable deals. Libertarians support free trade and think that U.S. citizens and businesses should be allowed to negotiate the deals that they find favorable without the interference of the U.S. government and government officials. Immigration DJT advocates building a wall along our Southern border and has said disparaging things about immigrants. Libertarians believe that people should be able to travel peacefully across borders to work, trade, or live. Eminent Domain DJT has taken advantage of eminent domain laws to build his real-estate empire. Libertarians think that eminent domain is often exploited by the wealthy at the cost of average Americans and is a violation of our most basic rights. War on Drugs DJT has, in the past, advocated ending the ‘war on drugs’ because it is ineffective and wasteful. Lately, he seems to be adjusting his stance and claiming that it’s an issue for states to decide. Libertarians also think that the ‘war on drugs’ is ineffective and wasteful. In addition, we think the ‘war on drugs’ is one of the biggest violations ofAmericans’civil liberties as it has been used to put hundreds of thousands on non-violent people in prison. DJT's AG has, and is currently, advocating increasing the 'war on drugs'. Thereby ensuring higher levels of incarceration and a growing private prison industry adding to taxpayer expense. Gay Marriage DJT has said that he thinks that gay marriage is an issue for the states. Libertarians think that the government has no business regulatinganyone’smarriage. Justice System DJT says he would be tough on crime via anti-crime policies. Libertarians also want to decrease crime but likely disagree with Mr. Trump on the nature of ‘crime.’ Libertarians are careful to differentiate between violent crimes and non-violent crimes, and also between crimes which involve a victim and those that do not. Currently, a huge percentage of our prison population is imprisoned for non-violent, victimless crimes such as marijuana use. Libertarians think that this is unjust to everyone: the taxpayer, the incarcerated, and society more broadly. Prison should be reserved for violent criminals. 2nd Amendment DJT has said that he is against limits on Americans’ 2nd Amendment Rights, but has supported the ban on so-called assault weapons and longer waiting periods to buy guns. Libertarians oppose all laws at any level of government that attempt to restrict, register, or monitor the ownership, manufacture, or transfer of firearms or ammunition. In the first debate, Trump said, ‘Our leaders are stupid. Our politicians are stupid.’ Libertarians think big government policies are the problem, and smarter politicians with the same policies won’t help. America needs new policies and a new perspective focusing on smaller government, more liberty, and peace. I rest my case. Btw....much of the above was literally copy and pasted from the Libertarian Party's own website. As an aside, since your position is to denigrate an argument rather than refute it, a $900B tax break for the 1% top earners, $800B cut from Medicaide and $50B additional defense spending is not "tabloid" news or straw man arguments. Calling such facts of the DJT submitted budget proposal "tabloid" or "straw men"only makes you sound even more profoundly intent to ignore reality. And Session's is just a boy from the south who don't know any better? .....Well shucks then. I won't mind so much when I'm sitting in a cell because that stupid good ol' boy escalated the War on Drugs and this little illicit grower gets caught in the middle. That sir, your previous comment to which I'm referring, was the biggest FUCK YOU to everybody that asshole imprisons. Excusing it because he's a 'good ol' boy'? That takes the damned cake right there and shows how messed in the head people get when they try to defend the indefensible. To paraphrase 'Yeah, my guy's guy is a little fucked in the head and you might go to jail because of it. But he's a good ol' boy so I hope you don't mind.' That's what you just said in defense of Sessions. Un-fucking-believable. Trump's AG is vigorously working to put guys like me in jail for as long as possible and you defend it with..."he's doesn't know better". You're actually proud of supporting that shit?