still I dont think anyone has answered my ?????s like how many batteries would it take to power a 1k light ? how long would they last and how would you charge them ? what are the real safety/fire issues ? is there any precautions I could take as for the safety issues ? that kinda stuff instead of being straight up disrespectful. I take offense when people talk to me like im stupid and half these guys cant even spell. Its kinda like telephone toughguy shit because face to face they dont have the balls to talk to people like that. like talkin about doin time whered you do yours cause of done alot myself. I usually dont get into this because doin time taught me how to act right because you never know whos on the other end. Just try to have some respect when you talk to people because face to face you could always be told in another manner,take comfort that you heard it this way instead. Im here for knowledge and knew all the same things ive been told about cost and complexeties and am willing to do it even if it would cost thousands per crop because it could be applied large scale. If someone shows me it cant be done and knows what there talking about then fine It was an idea?
its pretty easy I have been looking at getting off the grid too! As far as the elec. questions that stuff is on the internet. I have a link or two to get you started, but really what IMO this site needs is someone like you that will learn and teach us! I could help with math or equations. Also, can read articles for a second opinion. Obviously no one knows or they woulda give better answers, including me! http://www.e-marine-inc.com/products/wind_generators/airxmarine.html http://www.solar4power.com/solar-power-basics.html http://www.rain.org/~philfear/how2solar.html That's all I heav done so far.
screw everyone here go for it dude!!!!!! by the way how are you going to convert the DC voltage to AC
Of course we fucking know, that is why we answered, and I KNOW for a fact that this isn't viable. You have to convert AC to DC to charge the battery. You can pick a converter easy enough. Then you need something else to convert the DC back to AC for the lights. Sure, you can wire that up. The amount of batteries would depend on the type of battery you bought and how long you want to run them for before charging. You can probably get a few minutes out of a run of the mill single battery before you have to recharge. Think about how long it takes for a car to burn out its charge because lights are left on, a few hours plus or minus depending on the type of lights and batteries (huh, hear that before?). The dangers are your wiring, heat, and that thing filled with acid. You sound hell bent on doing this like this. If you have that much money to spend, go for some solar panels. But, it sounds like you really want to waste a lot of time and money for nothing, so go ahead. And people telling you the truth is not disrespectful. The reason no one has given you a solid answer to your questions is because it is a dumb idea. If this worked that easily we would all be doing it to be off the grid. It does not. That is your answer: find a different way or don't grow at all, cause this won't work.
Soon this technology will make us wonder what we did before. Kinda like microwaves, cel phones, computers, cable t.v., GPS......It will be the innovators that make it useful. So I say, please see that we are all doing our best to help but in the end you MIGHT be the one that makes something cool that we qll want and say "fuck, I cudda done that. Hes not so smart! lol
nothing at radioshack will run 1000w if you use a converter from radioshack it will work for about a second or two before the smoke gets let loose.
Dude- It doesn't work. The best inverters out there put out around 1 amp at 1kw. You need 6-10 amps to spark a 1000w HID light for growing. (don't go to the HID car lamps...they won't cut it) So you need around 7-10 deep cell 12v batteries for a 1000w HID grow light and if my thinking is right you will get around 1-1.5 hours of usable light. (I'm sure a sparky will correct me if I'm wrong) See the issues? This gets brought up occasionally and the reason you aren't getting a lot of serious replies is the answer can be had with a ten second Google search and a calculator. It's kind of up there with the piss on your plants or cutting big fan leaves type things. Makes sense for ohhhhhh about ten seconds until you actually think about it. The answer is to pay the $30 a month and be done with it. (which you have already been given) A growlight going on is no different than a salt water tank light on cycle. Power companies won't even flinch over such small usage patterns.....besides if your selling in tiny amounts to LOTS of people your issue isn't power spikes......it's stupidity. Your's and the guy who gets popped with a 1/4oz in his car then snitches yer ass out. Rule one in MJ gardening for profit in a non MMJ state: Either grow or sling, NOT both. The extra $$ from slinging small amounts isn't worth it when LEO pops you with a grow room and the poundage that comes with it. So get yer poop in a group and seriously think about what you are doing before you get yer ass in a load of trouble. BTW....you guys telling him to go for it or hinting that it might be the next best thing.........really shitty advice man.
It's words on a page dude. :wtf?: We don't know you from Adam. Maybe you are that stupid :bduh: You asked a legitimate question, you got legitimate answers. Don't get pissed off because it's not what you want you want to hear. You can't get the answer you want because nobody here has done such a silly thing, because it's not possible.
Had you guys just answered in detail the way you answered just now it would have been easier to understand why rather than shoot it down and give no reason even though I still think you guys need to learn how to talk to people.I'm sure that everyones had ???s,Its not like its a simple answer that anyone would know . What really would be stupid is if I hadnt asked first or did it after hearing from people who know. just remember that just because you have more knowledge on one subject doesnt mean you are smarter. How did you find out, did you ask someone ? thats what this sites for, not to be spoken down to by someone that doesnt even know you.
Average Joe are you stupid I just got the answers now after pulling teeth so keep your mouth shut. If its so stupid why waste your time with it acting like a bitch and causing drama, chiming in with a big mouth
Ya Know... I took alot of time to respond, as I always become the prick. I really want to sat 'go fuck yourself', but I wont. Disrespectful??? Anybody wish to know something that really irritates me? I'm going to tell you anyway. Imature little assholes who ask for help and then ignore it and keep asking, looking for someone to validate their brainstorm. Just as irritating: Tools that encourage this shit! GK ppl that TRY to help do it because you're a fellow grower, they try to save you time & money, and they want you to be safe. I'll be waiting for pics. of this 'innovation", but alas, I feel they will never come. Buy 100 bats and get cracking! I'll answer any and all questions, under one condition: You have to take a pic. (and share it, of course) of your face, when you confuse 'black and red' (sounds like that's HIGHly possible), and it blows-up in your face. Thanks RR & LL, but I'm sure your wisdom was a waste of time. ALSO, kindly read thru your posts prior to critiquing anyone's spelling/grammer.
What a Little Cunt! Mods: We need a 'smiley' for Hit The Fucking Road. 'Tones' would change. For once, you are correct. Enjoy the moment WhereTF's Team Douche when you need them?
I have to say that some of you are wrong. To all those people who said it can't be done. My dad lives in a remote rural mountain area and there is no power lines to his house. The house is 2000 square feet aprox. He has a bank of deep cycle batteries that are wired up to an inverter and he charges them once a day for aprox 2 hours using a 6 kilowatt diesel generator. This system has been working perfectly for my parents for over 15 years. They have an electric refrigerator, a microwave, big screen TV etc. My dad also has a machine shop with many high amperage draw tools that also run off of the same electrical setup. The setup cost was not cheap but after the initial investment it's a low cost effective and reliable system to power any house or grow op. It's perfectly possible if done correctly. The diesel fuel could even be switched over to bio diesel to eliminate fuel costs.
little cunt I only wish you would volunteer to meet me face to face and Ill show you that Im a grown fuckin man not an immature little asshole I was looking for people too give me real answers why it wouldnt work cant you read, not just saying it wont work because I know people love to burst other peoples bubbles usually when they dont even know themselves. If you go through the thread youll see that I just got real answers and was cool with it. you just sound stupid by saying stuff like little cunt because people know your just talking computer shit
That's no way to converse in a intelligent manner. Joe is a nice guy... Can't we all just get along????asssit:
PM Socaldad... He'll tell you how to do it. Nah. I'm just being an Ahole now. There's no haters here man. You were given advice which told you that it is not feasable, that it was overly complicated, that it was not cost effictive, and that among other things the Elect. company don't give a shit, they just want to get paid for what they provide. Now like AJ said that just ain't what you wanted to hear. bud. It is what it is. You don't expect people you don't even know to go about typing a looooong involved point by point diy of how to do something that they don't believe is in your best interests anyway. We're here to help not hate. You are still welcome in my book. I like those who try to push the envelope and have a hard time taking no for an answer. Now all that being said if you still want to pursue this idea to put your mind at ease and to maybe inform us of the outcome, I suggest this. 1. Buy a 12v Marine deep cycle battery. The really big ones. they are like 24" long. 2. Buy a 100w HID security light. 3. Buy enough inverters to provide the required amperage to start the hid. You may have to use multiple inverters and wire their outputs together. 4.Fiddle with it until you get it to work. 5. Now you get yourself a charger. 6. Completely drain your battery with the now functional light. Be sure to record how long the light works. 7. Recharge the battery recording exactly how much electricity is required to do this in kwh. 8. Repeat steps 6 and 7 several times until you have a large enough sample to call it definitive. Now you know what the cost vs. gain factor and have a basic idea of how to do what you want to. You can now scale this operation up to whatever factor you like. But remember as you scale up it will not be linearly. As you begin to work with more current your electrical needs in terms of size, safety and cost will increase expotentially. I hope you do the test in a small scale at least. I would love to know the results. Be sure to document and post with pics. Good Luck Retiree
SILLY SILLY boy :rofl6: You do amuse me, and for that I thank you! :rofl6: Now where are the pics. to back-up all your wordly knowledge? 8 Lbs.? :rofl6: I was going to 'neg rep' you, but I see you're a BIG ZERO! Good Luck with that! :rofl6:
