Red iso Hash?

If the UV does smooth out the chlorophyll, then maybe you can do a longer iso wash and get more THC?

 

Would be interesting to see. I would also like to see if I could find a UV-C bulb and do the same thing indoors. I have a nice acrylic box I could put it in to make sure I don't get any exposure. So if any you guys got a UV-C bulb you could try it out and see if it gives a similar result.

 

Thought of an easy test for this.


This weekend, Im going to iso hash lawn clippings but for like 3-4 minutes and get a good green wash and leave that in the sun. If that turns red as well, its the chlorophyll for a fact.

 

Do it and let us know. My bet is the chlorophylls color just decreases with the exposure and the red comes from the THC and some possibly isomerization that occurs due to the same UV exposure rearranging some of the cannabinoids giving the color. Would be cool though if the grass turns red, would throw that idea out the window.

 

Did a 3 min wash with freshly cut and washed (get the dirt out) lawn. Went from green gatorade color about to orange in 1.5 hours. Looks like it is just the chlorophyll breaking down and nothing to do with the trics. :thumbsup:


Now someone with some skuff n shit needs to do a 1 min, 3 min, 5 min washes and give a smoke report. I'd do that as well, but don't grow anywhere near enough to have that much garbage left over.

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Hmm that's pretty crazy, now to think about what may be responsible for the color. Was the color the same red color or was it orange? If orange it may be something to do with the carotenoids. So far I guess all we know is it shares hydrophobic character.


I saw a pic of some Hash over the weekend that is supposed to be oxidized and it was red. But more like the really red color of the stuff useless showed on the razor blade.


Check this out that I found about lebanese hash identification

So I guess we just need to find out what is similar to the grass and MJ that provides the color. I wouldn't doubt if it's just the chlorophyll breakdown caused by the UV and the carotenoids remain.


Time to go do some reading and research on the matter.

 

Yea I really think it has something to do with the carotenoids. They are polar and dissolved in alcohol.


Here are some that are contained in MJ

zeaxanthin is a red pigment and could be responsible. So is ß-cryptoxanthin. I was starting to think it might have something to do with anthocyanin, but if that were the cause I think the hash would look more purple. That and they are water soluble and wouldn't show up in the BHO, and I've seen plenty of red/amber BHO so makes me think the red tinge has to do with the destruction of chlorophyll and the retention of those carotenes giving the red hue.


Alright I researched and the carotenoids and seem they are more sensitive to the UV degradation. But they are in higher abundance at harvest. Though if they are degraded easier I found another possibility. I found that the two carotenoids that I thought might be responsible for the color have a similar color effect as hash. Yellow(blonde) and red. Apparently this two undergo esterfication during ripening to produce the color. Hers the article I found about that.

The two carotenoids undergo esterfication which requires a secondary alcohol. Isopropyl alcohol is a secondary alcohol. Esterfication allows for the creation of pigment that isn't easily degraded by UV or ozone.


I feel it has more to do with the carotenoids because of the red pigment seen in both alcohol and butane extractions. If anthocyanin has anything to do with it the red color would only be seen in the iso wash and not the butane due to it's polarity/solubility.

 

Excellent info.

 

Only got to orange. Sun went in, rain came. Only the iso had evaped at that time.

 

Cool cool, so we can atleast attribute alot of the color to the carotenoids. I would bet the rest of the red color comes from how we are harvesting. After reading about the Lebanese hash and the red hash they have, it all comes from mature plants. I know the stuff we have used to get the red hash came from what I would call mature plants, they didn't have all amber trichs or anything, mostly cloudy with some amber and some clear. The plants were mostly yellow(fan leaves) at harvest, something else they mentioned doing to achieve the red Lebanese.


So what you guys think, think we pretty much figured it out? Seems like we have a good idea anyway.

 

I was going to give this a go this afternoon. The trim I have is really ground up pretty good so I figure the cheesecloth method might really help.


I thought I had cheesecloth, but its actually like t-shirt material. Is that too dense to allow the heads to filter through?


What do you filter through Skunky?

 

From what I understand, isowash breaks down the heads and extracts the THC and put it into solution. I've run it through paper coffee filters which are finer than cheese cloth.

 

Cheesecloth if I got it, T-shirt if I don't. The trichs are dissolved in the alcohol.


I shake it in the jar then strain it through the T-shirt. Kinda looks like Res put it in the shirt first then washed it. I'm sure it's fine that way though too.

 

OK, first time for this.


I took some stuff I water cured and ruined the taste of and crumbled ip up loosely. I put it in a jar and filled with 70% ISO. Shook for a minute or so and poored through a coffee filter. It went into a pan and put outside where it's currently 108 on my thermo. Didn't take long to evap. I scraped the thin brown flakey layer off the pan. And here's what I have.


Does this look right :icon_scratch:














It has what looks to be sparkly stuff in it, and I was real nervous that I was scraping a layer of the pan, but I looked at it close with the loupe and I don't see any scrapes in the pan material close up.


So now what do I do with it?

 

I( just made some yesterday but after I had it in a pile like yours I got a phone call & left it on the heating pad & it all melt together seems ok-Bud

 

Put it in your pipe and smoke it.