The President of the USA is NOT a god.

Slugg · Dec 16, 2006

Herbsparky said:

There you have it. See....you 'get it' BongPig. It's nothing more than a giant chess game and right now the 'money men' are going for check mate. THEY pull the strings. The good thing is people such as you and me are starting to wake up and truely see what's going down here. Question is.....is it too late? We're in a race and what's at stake is our very freedom. These people are so SURE of themselves that they flaunt it right in front of our faces. They laugh when people are more concerned with who the latest pop star is fucking than the slow strangle hold of control they tighten each and every day. We're like the frog in the water.....turn the heat up slowly and the frog never knows he's being cooked. By the time the frog realizes what's going on.....he's dinner. It's sad that people can't see what lies right in front of their eyes because they are so 'comfortable' with their debt filled ritualistic lives. How many people are here or do we all know in our lives that live pay check to pay check. One check away from complete financial ruin if one lil thing goes wrong. Families no longer have savings accounts....they don't own their house, their cars, their home entertainment centers, etc etc. The BANK does. We are a so dependant on 'credit' becausethese bastards have squeezed so fucking hard that we have to BORROW their money to have the illusion that actually have something to show for all the hard work we do. Think about it.....seriously think about what you own OUTRIGHT in this world. I'm willing to bet that many don't 'own' a whole hell of a lot. Well then......who DOES? Yup...the banks. Hmmmmmmmm...the banks own us. Now they plan on taking the very rights that PROTECT us from people such as THEM so we have ZERO chance of fighting back. COmplete control while we slave away becoming more and more poor while they suck us dry. Britiney who?
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You're absolutly right. I work with the military (I am a civilian) and I see these young soldiers and sailors come through here STRESSING their credit rating. I do my best to explain that buying cash (outright) is by far the better option. However, they are forced to sit in on 'training' videos that teaches them to take out loans, pay them off, and increase their credit score. This is no joke. They are taught to take out a credit card and use it. Then pay it off. THen use it. Then pay it off. I can't get them to understand that even IF they pay it all off, they just paid for a service they didn't need. The entire idea behind consumer credit it revolting. My wife and I are doing our best out here to save up enough money to buy our first house outright, but we'll see.

CONSUMER CREDIT IS EVIL!!

OldGrowerDude · Dec 16, 2006

I will NEVER own a credit card till I die, I laugh at people who use them, and mock those who offer them. Everything I have ever bought I payed for with money I had already earned, doing it the other way around just never appealed to me.

And anyone with any head on their shoulders who is looking at the economy right now would make sure to have some tangible assets set asside (like gold) and make sure as hell to be out of debt. Countries are all but stopping trading in U.S. Dollar, and Virtually no one wants to trade oil in dollars.

Thats really the end game though.... Alot debt to the money as its printed, get people into deeper debt by design, and then devalue the money until you get whats happening now where people are coming to America to do their christmas shopping because the exchange rates are so good, it's literally turning into the American Peso.

No one thought it could ever happen in America, But we have been hijacked, and trained to love it.

Mermaid · Dec 16, 2006

Great points made by all! Even if you OWN your house...car or whatever toy you have paid for in full. Let's face it....you will lose your house if you do not pay your taxes'....you will not drive unless you pay for insurance which in my state is one of the highest . Not to mention you must claim all you own to the government so basically you only own one thing>>>YOU & the shirt and clothes on your back. Kinda sucks eh?

An older man told me one day that he spent his life working to pay off his house only to have to sell it due to the fact he could not afford it when he retired. Not to mention he said it was due to his health and not being able to keep up with yard work and repair's. Now he lives in a adult community paying out the nose and does not own a thing. Sad when you think that ppl work so hard for what they have and in reality they can lose it all in the blink of an eye.

I also agree that credit card's are like the devil...looks great but when the bill comes in and you do not have the funds to pay it off not to mention paying the percentage rate's>>yep your belly up in debt. I don't own a credit card anymore....learned my lesson when I was married and my ex-hubby went hog wild buying every toy ...only get us up to our neck in credit debt. I had to pay it all off as he was not working when we split. I never got another credit card since. If I don't have the cash to buy it...then I go without. I live within my means and my children KNOW money does not grow on trees. Yah I may not have the fanciest house but it is full of love. The bank can't take that...nor can anyone else.

Peace~Jersey

TheApprentice · Dec 16, 2006

Glad you watched it... ppl are starting to SEE clearly!!

bongpig said:

Thanks for providing links to the Masters video. It has seriously changed my whole perception on the world.
I had always thought that the US had gone into Iraq for the oil (like most of the world) but i never realised the actual reasons behind getting the oil, nor did i relies that its not the US but the international bankers that want the oil.

My view are that the Bush family and the Bin Laden family are being used as puppets by the international bankers to create some instability in the world, aka 9/11. Bush's are used because they are the 'leaders' of the most powerful nation and Bin Laden because they are "power-hungry political conspirators who were committed to the overthrow of existing governments" which aids the international bankers in their quest for an international government.

The reason for 9/11 was to force the US into the Middle East to accomplish 2 things. 1. To get rid of Saddam who is selling oil on the black market keeping revenue out of the international bankers hands by making his own money and not having to take out loans at the international banks and therefor not having to pay any interest. 2. To gain control over the world oil market, forcing the world to pay the price the international bankers set, this in-turn will drive up the cost of fuel, which will slow down the world economy sending it into a massive depression, bigger then ever conceived before.

Plus not to mention the cost of the war so far....the international bankers are rolling in all the interest from the war.

In the next depression you will be poor, starving, and have no fuel....even if you can afford petrol you wont be able to afford it for long when the price starts hitting hundreds of dollars per litre/gallon...so even the almost super-rich will become super-poor like everyone else eventually. This will mean the international bankers will virtually own the world and we will all be fucked. Once they own it all we will really become slaves, doing what were told just to have a bed and some food. wont matter when the people at the top have complete control

Hopefully enough people can wake up and smell the flowers before shit goes bad, but going by world events i can already see that the plan is starting to gain momentum. Its all bad.

For disbelievers the " Masters" video is not a conspiracy theory movie it is a movie documenting the history of the worlds monetary systems focusing on the US. There is alot of good information in the movie and its well worth watching

if this post sound scattered....the movie will do that do you
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Sooooooo glad you actually took the 3 and a half hours to watch 'the money masters'... i did promise it would change your whole perception of world government,etc.This aint just an american issue,in the UK id cards are being introduced very soon and i'd say the UK and the USA are hand in hand in all that they do cos they both controlled by different players of the same game,like herb says its all a game of chess!:5masked:

Also your right,there will be another depression...except it will be worldwide,it will make ppl despair so much that they will be blind to the world government that creeps upon them... we already had petrol scares in the UK a few years back and again last year,the petrol stations were sold out and ppl were DESPERATE and panicking...it was hysteria!Just a practice run of things to come?:sign13:

Finally thank you for pointing out that 'the money masters' is not some conspiracy film..its cold,hard FACTS.Everyone should watch it and check out the others mentioned in this thread by me,lastknight and oldgrowerdude(respect to ya).

Type in alex jones at google vids and there is a plethera to choose from.. other keywords to get to good documentaries are CONSPIRACY;9/11;ILLUMINATI;WORLD BANK;ASSASINATION and many more words im sure you will think of that lead you to these great films.

If you wanna watch some 1950's american propoganda comedy then waqtch 'reefer madness' i prefer the version with the alex jones commentary.Peace

Joe Gardener · Jan 4, 2007

Slugg said:

You're absolutly right. I work with the military (I am a civilian) and I see these young soldiers and sailors come through here STRESSING their credit rating. I do my best to explain that buying cash (outright) is by far the better option. However, they are forced to sit in on 'training' videos that teaches them to take out loans, pay them off, and increase their credit score. This is no joke. They are taught to take out a credit card and use it. Then pay it off. THen use it. Then pay it off. I can't get them to understand that even IF they pay it all off, they just paid for a service they didn't need. The entire idea behind consumer credit it revolting. My wife and I are doing our best out here to save up enough money to buy our first house outright, but we'll see.
CONSUMER CREDIT IS EVIL!!
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I have to agree. Credit is an economic control. Something akin to Government.

I was talking with a Bud of mine and we agree that there may be Conceptual Freedom but that is controlled by economic limitations.

For example anyone can have a passport but few can afford to leave the country.

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