How fucking stupid are you? There is NO justification for assaulting someone, period....... No matter what Zimmerman did he never broke the law, Trayvon broke the law when he started to assault Zimmerman. Trayvon martin died because he assaulted a man that had a gun and used it...... I don give a fuck what the law says, if someone is assaulting me and I have a gun, I will use it. This is a real lesson in making sure the body is never found. Stupid fucks MAD MAX
This is a real lesson in making sure the body is never found. Im just not understanding that sentence.....:bduh:
1. I am pretty sure there are justifications for assaulting someone. 2. No one said Zim was breaking the law. He wasn't, that much is true. 3. If you have to use a gun in a fist fight, you are a pussy. How fucking stupid am I? Fucking stupid enough not to kill someone because I was so fucking stupid I followed them and harassed them AFTER having 911 tell me not to.
So no one ever has been justified in a fight? That in itself is a bullshit justification for shooting a kid. Zimmerman is a pussy and will spend the rest of his life knowing he shot an UNARMED teenager because he was such a big pussy that he had to shoot him in a fight ZIMMERMAN instigated. The ONLY reason he went free is because Florida's laws are so fucked up they had to let him off. If he had done that in NC his ass would be on death row being butt raped like he should.
Jury believed Trayvon attacked first... Look at Zimmermans face and head... Dude may have made a mistake in followin someone he believed was a neer do well. Trayvon made a worse one by turning back and attacking someone rather than communicating that he lived there... Dude was trying to protect his neighbors after a string of thefts and trayvon responded with violence... A youthful stupid mistake that cost him his life.
You can't justify assault because someone is following you...Trayvon was on the phone with a girl...he should have hung up and called the police if he was worried enough to attack a stranger.
That doesn't change the fact that a grown ass man getting his ass kicked by a teenager shot the kid. Pussy ass Zimmerman.
I don't see how age changes the rules of self defense... I know a few people age 15 to 17 that can really hurt you... When you are in a fight with a stranger you have no idea what the other person is capable of. And having a gun on you when you get into a physical scrape is scary.. The thought off the person kicking your ass getting your firearm from you is enough to make you shit yourself.
Really Guys I don't get involved in this forum much for obvious reasons. Seams this discussion is getting a little heated. Lion how about remembering your a mod when putting down Bud the way you did. Heres your Quote.:BangHead: So lets bring it down a notch please.
I love how everybody that is sticking up for Zimmerman keeps bringing up the "what ifs" and how it all went down. NONE of us know shit about how it went down and if anything was said before hand. All we have to go on is Zimmerman's tale. Now I grew up in the projects. (for those that think we all have always lived in nice safe neighborhoods.) The parts of the city I have lived in, once I became an adult and had a kid, are the areas that people DO NOT go through after dark. We watched out for each other's shit. If we saw something suspicious, we would watch and see if they were going to do something to anyones house or vehicle, THEN we would react. A simple yelling like " HEY!! WHAT THE FUCK YOU THINK YOUR DOING." was usually enough to scare them off. Again, this was a pretty rough part of town. You heard gunshots going off most nights. I carried a gun for a few years. A .45 when I had room to carry it or a .380 when I needed it to fit in a pocket. I've been in fights while I was carrying. I have NEVER pulled my gun during a fight. Did I always win? Ummm, sure. Yeah, that's the ticket. Sure I always won. I even had people that knew I carried ask why I got beat (ooppss. I mean won) and didn't pull my gun out. "Because it was a fucking fight. Not a war." Now I'm starting to take all this bullshit real fucking personal. The guy's a fucking moron. If you can't handle yourself, you do not put yourself in the position he put himself into. He should have learned that in ANY course he took, wether it was a neighborhood watch group or when he went for his pistol permit or even just growing up. I bet he got his ass beat A LOT as a kid and got a gun just so it wouldn't happen again. I've seen young cops who did that: became cops so people wouldn't beat on them anymore. I've seen those same cops smack handcuffed people with their sticks, even when they arrived AFTER the fact. And he WAS told to stop following him and get back in his car. That the police didn't even think it worthy of showing up. The moral of this story is "QUIT TRYING TO JUSTIFY AN ASSHOLES DECISION!" Even tho the "law" was on his side in that state doesn't make what he did "right". He's one of the biggest pussy's I've ever seen. I could care less wether he was found guilty or not guilty. It comes down to what is "morally Right". God, I never thought I would be saying that. Ever. It comes down to what is right and how we should live in society. If I shot every fucking asshole who I KNEW (which he didn't) was a criminal and was up to no good on any given night, I'd be one of the biggest mass murder's you would have ever heard about. THEN you add in all the one's that I think look suspicious? I'd have a whole city that could be filled with dead people. If any of you think you want to be a big bad ass and think you would just somebody because you started to trail them around somebody who is bigger than you and you can't handle yourself (anything after that is the word of a child killer. That's right, a child. I don't care if he was 7 feet tall and 400 pounds, he was 17), go ahead. Do it. You'll be the next "biggest asshole" there is. I have a lot more I'd like to say, but I'm starting to get on a tangent, so I'll be ending my part here.
I didn't realize I could be berated for being a smart ass while having to edit Res' posts in other threads to keep him from getting strikes or get the mod team heat in the matter for being able to say things to people we wouldn't allow otherwise. Plus, I think Bud is as big enough man to NOT take anything I say to him to heart, or generally give a fuck in the first place what I say. I don't use the word "pussy" EVER, except now, when the pure definition of it is being shown. AGAIN, he got off because of Florida's laws, not because he was right.
Lion you are wrong about the whole florida thing. Any state in the union allows you to use deadly force if attacked and you feel for your life. Florida has stand your ground laws, that means no duty to retreat....this WAS NOT stand your ground because Zimmerman couldnt retreat. You and a few others have basic facts wrong in this case and have your mind made up. Zimerman was already out of the car when he was asked "are you following him"...he said yes and they told him "we don't need you to do that" he said ok and told the 911 dispatcher that he would meet the police at his vehicle and hung up. That's when TM attacked Zimmerman. For the life of me I don't understnad where you are coming from. You got this preconceived notion in your head already made up....look at the facts.....all growers are scientists to some extent, you look at the data and make a conclusion. You are sitting there trying to apply facts that never happened with info not known at the time. Pretty sure that that's not how you do thing. CC, nothing is coming down from the feds. Nothing at all. Zimmerman is goign to be rich when ABC, CNN, NBC pay him due to them putting out misinformation to people like LL and causing this for him. The man shouldn't have been arrested. And civilly TM's family aint getting shit. You have to come to court with clean hands. If anything they will get a token amount because TM caused this situation....no one else. TA, I have to reread yours and LVS shit when I'm a little more sober. And for fucks sake, we can disagree people with fighting. Who gives a shit unless TM or Zim is your familiy member at the end of the day
Again, I have no facts wrong. Zimmerman followed TM, got his ass beat by a teenager (as a grown ass man) and shot the kid. That is what happened. No, they did not use Stand Your Ground as a defense because they didn't need to, the law was already in his favor and the prosecution had NO case or good evidence. The 6 jurors had no choice but to find him innocent. That is one reason I am not in the street rioting, because it is the system that is fucked up in this situation and not the crime. But Zimmerman will always be a pussy ass bitch who shot a teenager because he couldn't handle himself. He started the situation and he ended it, on a very bad note.