Trayvon Martin - Zimmerman Trail

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Trayvon Martin - Zimmerman Trail

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  1. TheApprentice

    TheApprentice Retired.

    nippie this prosecutors good man. Hes pressing all the right buttons. I dunno,based on the closing statements id say Zimmermans going to jail. This guys convincing me and i KNOW prosecutors are manipulating liying bastards when they wanna be:roll:


    EDIT: TMs Dad looks like a celebrity i cant think of right now but it will come to me. BTW nippie did they mention during the trial about TMs mum trademarking her sons name? Its relevent to portraying friends and family as willing to lie for a payday.Just curious:jj:


    The fact Zimmerman didnt testify is gonna come back haunt him i seriously think.If im on that Jury then im thinking "show me who you are,forget who your defence say you are,SHOW ME". When the rest of your life is on the line YOU MUST TESTIFY TO DEFEND YOURSELF. Hes screaming self defence in a trial and the one chance he got to defend himself and he refused..... always looks dodgy even though hes not obliged.
     
  2. nippie

    nippie preachin' and pimpin'

    didn't that child have that right to defend himself from that strange man????


    WTF, is suggesting that Trayavon was going to get raped :roffl:


    Notice how he keeps saying use your heart...because facts don't back his case


    Beyond a reasonable doubt
     
  3. TheApprentice

    TheApprentice Retired.

    Aye i did notice that actually.Typical prosecutor tactics when they dont have evidence to use,just use your heart!:eek: And yeah they keep saying the child thing which does fuckin bug me cos with me they did that and the guy was 19 nearly 20!!!
     
  4. TheApprentice

    TheApprentice Retired.

    Nippie are you tweeting to this live feed??? Literally the minute you posted that there about the heart i watched it come up across the tickertape on bottom of screen!!! :tvlaugh:


    Hahaha the prosecutors got the fucking concrete out now!!:rofl: In the UK there would be no concrete,there would be HD images and close ups of the concrete on all the court screens. I find that quite surreal that they just stroll about the courtroom with fuckin slabs of the sidewalk:5eek:


    One thing dont like is the prosecutor showing pictures of his hand and saying "would TMs hand look like that if he had pummelled a man" . Thats bullshit cos a few guys who pummelled me had no hand injuries,dont mean shit!
     
  5. Hank Chinaski

    Hank Chinaski Ruminating

    People get raped everyday.


    I guess self-defense is only ok if you shoot someone. Simply punching them is just ridiculous.


    :thumbsup:
     
  6. TheApprentice

    TheApprentice Retired.

    Its a done deal nippie....


    Game Over nippie. The prosecutor just hit a homerun to the jury with the point about "This case isnt about stand your ground,its about stay in your car like you were told too" then just to make sure he hit a homerun he drops "Zimmerman has changed his story in different statements". Im a juror and zimmerman has refused to testify when theres questions raised,hes gone. You cant be accused of lying and not defend that shit in a case like this. My final verdict on this is hes gonna get a Guilty. Not saying he should but hes getting it. There'll be no free tv's in Liberty City tonight:tvlaugh:
     
  7. nippie

    nippie preachin' and pimpin'

  8. TheApprentice

    TheApprentice Retired.

    Yeah but a Jury is part direction from the judge and part "whatever the fuck they wanna make of it". Theres been many perverse jury decisions. He'll get his appeal and maybe do a few years in jail then win his appeal. That sounds about fair to me.Plus hes gonna have to dodge the black community for quite some time. Oooft,prisons gonna be a harsh awakening for this dude. Hes getting a guilty mate,heard it here first!:lmao:
     
  9. TheApprentice

    TheApprentice Retired.

    Ahhhh hes flipped the age reverse card,never saw that coming:tvlaugh:
     
  10. nippie

    nippie preachin' and pimpin'

    This case isn't about race...its about hate..hate in his heart :roffl:


    Hank, show me how many grow men get raped on the side of the street...why didn't he run? You think he thinking "dudes want to stick it up my ass, hey I'll stay around and fight him off" :roffl:
     
  11. Hank Chinaski

    Hank Chinaski Ruminating

    Why should he run? People are supposed to be able to stand their ground in FL, I thought?


    :thumbs-up:
     
  12. nippie

    nippie preachin' and pimpin'

    WTF Hank, you never have a valid point, you try to twist shit and make straw man arguments.


    I didn't hear once the prosecutor say Trayvon thought he was gonna get raped...nor from the Goblin he was speaking to that lied her ass off and got caught many times doing it.


    Read the jury instructions, maybe take a class on the law, then argue:dink:


    Like I said page 12, it's all that matters. Basically it states "if you think it's POSSIBLE that Zimmerman thought he was in danger you must acquit"...reasonable doubt, it there is any chance in your mind that HE could have felt this way. :-welcome-:


    Thankfully we are a nation of laws, not of bleeding hearts that want to crucify someone because they saw pictures of a 12 y/o on the news that wanted to SELL ADVERTISEMENTS instead of put the truth out there.
     
  13. Hank Chinaski

    Hank Chinaski Ruminating

    LOL! You are the one going on about how Zimmerman had the right to defend himself, but when it gets turned around you don't afford Trayvon the same right. He is supposed to run off. Your reasoning is totally one-sided. Transparently.


    :goodjob:
     
  14. nippie

    nippie preachin' and pimpin'

    WTF once again, strawman argument. Once attacked!! not just for being on the street, not just driving around, seriously once again with the straw man shit.


    You have no duty to retreat. That means if Trayvon felt threatened he had no duty to retreat and could fight. That didn't happen, everything ALL the EVIDENCE and FACTS show trayvon was the aggressor.


    Can I shoot someone for driving behind me on the highway? Are you serious? That's the asinine stance you are taking? Hey this person is behind me, poses no threat, but hey I'm going to shoot him.


    Once someone attacks you or attempts to attack you YOU HAVE NO DUTY TO RETREAT...that is a fuck load different than hey he was behind me, hey happened to be going the same way on the same street, hey this guy is looking for someone, I guess I can kill him.


    You say my reasoning is one-sided, but hey at least there's reason there. I don't know what to think of your argument. :)


    You understand that's why Goblin changed her story, to give TM's family a chance in civil court?? SO his family can say Trayvon (as proven in court!!!!!) was the agressor because he felt threatened? Has that not crossed your mind? Because if she wouldn't have said Zimmerman ran up on him, then TM's family couldn't sue.


    Are you seriously that gullible??????????????
     
  15. TheApprentice

    TheApprentice Retired.

    Im listening to the Judges direction and im swaying. Might not ne a guilty,i didnt know all these technicalities:passit:
     
  16. nippie

    nippie preachin' and pimpin'

    did you hear the instructions...not guilty


    and now the waiting begins:popcorn-2:
     
  17. Hank Chinaski

    Hank Chinaski Ruminating

    I haven't put up any strawmen. I just pointed out the glaring inconsistencies in your argument. And you put a lot of words in my mouth in that last rant there, as well. I don't usually recommend meds, but sounds like you could use some, or a rabies shot maybe.


    To the point, you sound like a total crazy person to me. I don't know how anyone could take what you say seriously.


    :bduh:
     
  18. buds4ever

    buds4ever Lost in the woods

    Nippie. One, no strawman arguments have been thrown around by anyone except you. Define attack. Who was under attack? Zimmerman, and how did that come about. Who was the child and did not have a weapon? Who was on there way home,was followed,then killed? Not Zimmerman.


    I suspect if the 'gun' were in the other hand you would be calling for the death penalty. You would not be trying to argue Florida law, which you only start babbling about after the point of zimmerman following the kid 'being attacked' then killing the child. Why did he follow him? Why?...Your correct on one point, because he wasn't opie. Thats why.


    Bro, I served and still do, dont talk to me about kids and guns. I'm well aware of stand your ground. No duty to retreat etc..But, the 'aggressor' was defined when the adult with the weapon, made the choice to follow the child and kill him. Zimmerman is a punk ass bitch who could't fight his way out a wet paper bag so he killed the kid he picked on. No defense for that.


    Oh, and may Thor be with with you. b4e:bong-2:
     
  19. nippie

    nippie preachin' and pimpin'

    What inconsistencies Hank list em? You have the right to defend yourself while attacked...someone following you or asking you questions is not an attack. What world do you live in?


    I would recommend that you wake up and quit acting like a child, not everyone that owns a gun is bad, just like you said is fantasy land to get beat to death but are horribly scared of guns to which it's not even in the same category. Combining all of the deaths from rifles (which includes 22s and everything) you are still 2.5xs more likely to be beaten to death....so whos in fantasy land? Facts are facts
     
  20. nippie

    nippie preachin' and pimpin'

    b4e, look at shit with open eyes. You telling me a 17 y/o is the same as a 5 y/o? Seriously what world? You tell me that 17 years old enlisting are considered children?


    And do you not live in a community? Fuck I would expect my neighbors to look at for me and my kids. I live town for biz all the time and if someone is snooping around I would EXPECT my neighbors to ask questions. Same I as do for them....that's what a community is


    And same as I asked CC, if someone asks your son who they are and what they are doing, do you expect your son to sucker punch them? Serious question there. No acts like that, you don't ambush someone in a different neighborhood because they are watching you. What fucked up part of the world do you live in?


    And show me anywhere were he knew it was a kid....or should I say child like you keep referring him to be? I just got back from Chicago, you seen the news up there lately? You seen what those "children" are doing. Or even in my hometown...I'll PM you what these "children" are doing. Because we all know at 17 you a weak little bitch and need someone to hold your hand right? That's why the law can't try you as an adult at the age, and you can't enlist in the military....ooopps thats right, the law does treat you like an adult at 17 for felonies, and you can enlist.


    So once again, stop acting like a gang banging thug is opie taylor. You know he bragged about kicking the shit out of his school bus driver, he was trying to buy guns, he was robbing houses and was caught red handed with the shit...but that's ok, he never did anything wrong in his life, he was running away like a scared little boy when big bad zimmerman hunted him down cause he was out to kill a black kid.


    That's why Zimmerman told the police everything, that's why he faked his injuries, that's why he planned his neighbors' statements through telepathy so they could murder a little black innocent child. All this mind you in less than a minute with peopel watching


    If you read, I agree that Zimmerman is a little bitch, I can quote myself if you want in this thread...but facts are facts. Just because you don't like someone you don't get to hit them, just because someone is following you you dont get to beat them, just because someone asks a question you don't get to beat them. In what world is this normal to you? Is that what you teach your kids? If someone looks act you, beat the shit out of them?


    BTW...the little thor comment while I usually laugh about shit like that is a low blow, I expect shit like that from Hank, I have more respect for someone like you. Way off topic and has nothing to do with this...unless you are saying that I'm a Zimmerman side because he's atheist and killing little black boys in the name of heathens


    also...attack...physical hand to hand...that's an attack, not even the girlfriend said that, and remember, she listened to the entire thing...after she was told by the lawyers about a payday:bong-2:
     

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