Umm no...it's defin about radical Islam...Assad was a secular president... And explain to me the difference of our planes dropping tens of thousands of pounds of high explosives on a village because someone takes a pop shot at a soilder and this?
There is no information saying the MAJORITY of fighters are foreign and just doing it for Islam. You are confusing countries and civil wars. What is so bad? I am pretty sure being a second class citizen, being killed for no reason, and the want for some sort of freedom is good enough to start a civil war.
They were protesting and got shot. Assad's government killed 100k plus people so far because of protesting for freedom. That is number one damn good reason for a civil war. The precursor to that is living under a dictator and the things that come with it. Again, this has been going on for over two years, read something about it.
Yeah fuck it your right man.... let Assad murder the rest of them too cos he dont want to relinquish power. Who gives a shit,we cool, good shit on the tv anyways:icon_rolleyes: The MAJORITY of that country want him gone,not just a few rebels. And nippie if i believed those rebels were all Islamic crazy asses then id be hesitant too.But iv observed this shit for two and a half years,this isnt the only thread on here where i was going on about this shit from the start.I seen this shit coming.... just like i can see bad shit coming out of it if we stand by and do nothing:bongin: Drones could take out Assad and any other targets. Send in special ops to do the mop up and then send in troops to keep order. Curfew the whole damn place,thats the mistake that was made in Iraq,by time they finally started doing that shit it was way too late. You guys are the land of the free.... but you oppose getting involved in freedom for others. Well personally im disgusted with my Govt for their wait and see approach cos its went on for too long and its getting way worse. We sent ships,jets,bombs and alllsorts in Libya to help them and Gaddaffi wasnt dropping Sarin on his people.:jj: THE FACT THE UK SOLD SARIN AGENTS TO ASSAD AFTER THIS CIVIL WAR BEGAN BEGGARS BELIEF:eusa_doh:
Ohhhh. I get it. Because I personally didn't see 100k plus people die I can't believe every news outlet, the surrounding governments, the UN, independent aid agencies, and every country in the world? Our average daily debt is around 2 billion, but the actual national debt stays almost exactly the same. I don't understand economics.
How much of your budget goes to the military. A million times more than education, health and a stac of other shit. Whats the point in having an obese military if you cant use it to fight the bad guys here and there. Ofo im not saying its clear cut and easy choices.Not saying i hold the answers either. But cant you see that killing your own people (not rebels but innocent people) with gas invented by the nazis in WW2 ,isnt cool? Some sort of shit has to be done. If thats drones only then fair enough. I do get the mentality of "why should americans have to die to stop foreigners from dying"i can understand that school of thought even if i dont subscribe to it. But when people are like "no lets not waste MONEY on stopping innocents from dying" then thats bit fucked up. Im not rich but if theres a crisis and i can help i usually do with a monthly bank direct debit to a charity.Sometimes its a homebased charity other times a foriegn one. Lives,i get that but money?Who gives a shit.If it saves lives and helps the Syrians decide their own future then send in the drones,lots of them:bongin:
I watch all the stations and read all the different outlets. The only wrong news is MSNBC and Fox news.
Hey dont knock Fox news man,you can smoke a bowl to that shit!! Anyways...what the fuck is with UK selling Sarin to Syria AFTER civil war breas out??? Shouldnt that be some sort of war crime to do shit like that. Give them sarin,let them use it then ask parliament if we can go to war with them for using what we gave them. Is no one else a little unsettled by that shit Whats our Govt doing stockpiling this shit then selling it to rogue nations for anyways if we say "use that and we'll kill you..... but eh... you still wanting that next shipment for October BTW?":eusa_shifty: Its a scandal. Can you imagine Obama sold Assad sarin after the civil wwar broke out...and THEN he said Dont use sarin.... and THEN when they use it he wants to go to war cos its "illegal"!!!It would be like Contra all over again for you guys,well thats what Dave Cameron has done and i think he should answer for this shit:2c:
[YOUTUBE]RFfnxK-YGGQ[/YOUTUBE] looks like a fine young man to me....must of just been made he couldn't have off on saturday
Lion, you act like we are being one sided......look at the ENTIRE WORLD...why do you think noone want's to help them....because they are TERRORISTS!!!!!!!!!!
:rofl6: You fuckin kill me man!!!!:tvlaugh: You crease me up with that shit sometimes EDIT: It also demonstrates the levels of hunger among those not loyal to Assad......:icon_biggrin: ..........Ah shit i couldnt keep a straight face!:tvlaugh:
I am not saying you are one sided. I am saying the same stuff as TA, but is he saying you are one sided? Yah, I remember the heart thing. If we want to go into horrible things and culture, US soldiers have done just as bad shit as anyone else. I seem to remember Vietnam as an example.
Im just saying... if theres a line in the sand given to a nation by another nation. Then the line in the sand is crossed,theres got to be consequences. Other wise see the guy who rides bears and shit,hes gonna call your bluff. If i tell someone if they steal my weed i'll fuck them up,then they actually steal my weed then im fucking them up and i dont care about their friend standing behind them with the hammer and sickle. Its the principal of me saying "this is what happens when you cross me ,my friends or even innocent people in the streets" USA is a heavy weight in this underground,its their job to pull rank. They pull rank on other guys for less but this Syrai guy can do what he wants cos the only difference is hes got the Russian bear fondler in his corner Thats all im saying... SOMETHING needs done and i aint talking UN resolutions that China and Russia will veto anyways. Drones. I dont like them but i respect their effectiveness and precision when used properly:bongin:
I agree to a certain degree. If it's proven Assad used weapons, bomb his shit so he's not a regional threat anymore. That's easy enough to do, but we don't need a no fly zone, or direct military confrontation. But any strike needs to be extremely limited and the only reason we should strike is because of the chemical weapons. Fuck helping them rebels....just turn that place into another Afghan in 10 years because of the power vacuum.
Yeah its gona be messy whatever way it goes down with intervention or lack of. Thing is if we had put a no fly zone in place way back then half this shit wouldnt have happened. I mean we had Iraq on a no fly zone for YEARS due to the fact they gassed the Kurds in the North. From a Euro point of view we NEED to get involved cos Turkey is one of ours practically and no way can they keep welcoming in a MILLION refugees per year from Syria. These people need to go home and we need to help them go home by clearing the decks for them.:bongin:
It ain't our shit. There's no endgame, outside of another occupation, that is satisfactory for western interests. Regime change brings terrorists with more $$, more weaponry and a state base of operations. More Assad brings more butchery. You pick. As far as bombing...what a freakishly idiotic rationale that is. Assad bombs and gasses his people....so we bomb them some more in response? Don't make a lot of sense do it? So why is it whenever there's trouble the english speaking countries need to do something? Let the French (who have a tenuous obligation to their ex-colony), the Turks, the Arab League actually do something for once. They have stronger attachment, stronger concerns and a common culture. It sucks...it's horrible....and it ain't our fight.
Amen, Brother ! It ain't our fucking fight. Even Israel is on the sidelines, saying " Do something ".. Ya know what , Mr. nothing-but-a -yahoo ? You have a well equipped Air Force and Army. They are right next door. Have at it and quit expecting other people to die fighting your battles. The mid east has been killing each other for thousands of years and it ain't gonna stop any time soon. I am personally tired of the United States acting like the worlds policeman. Crap, especially when these things are begun to advance corporate/ Banking interests. I just find this whole fucking mess nauseating. And if you look at it, the real target is Iran, anyway. Should Syria fall, then Iran is boxed from the west and the east. Again, there is Israel yelling " do something, do something." Again i say, have at it , bitches. Fuck, enough ranting for now. BBT
[YOUTUBE]okgH8xgZt_Q[/YOUTUBE]Where's the UK? oooppps my bad that's them freedom fighters wanting a 40 work week
Yeah i watched a few of them vids last night. Its still only a small fraction of the rebels though. Everyones wanting in on the action. If US use their head they'll accidentally drone these fuckers along with Assad:bongin:
