AUMA ( legalization in California )

Discussion in 'Politics' started by GreenThumb, Apr 29, 2016.

  1. OldSmokey

    OldSmokey Registered Users

    So I went back and read the top of page 9 yet again. Looks to me like the list of "the 5 things" doesn't suggest that they all have to be in play all at the same moment. So maybe if I were able to keep what my six plants could grow, I'd be a much happier camper. Maybe I've misinterpreted this.


    Sure would be nice to have this part made much clearer. (Can I possess 100 lb, just because I grew it from my six very large (and very imaginary!) plants? How would I ever prove that I grew it? How do i dry a "live plant?" Is it still a "live plant" when it's being "processed" in the curing jar?)


    OS
     
  2. blazerwill420

    blazerwill420 Fuck AUMA

    The only fools in the room are the people that vote yes for this steaming piece of shit.
     
  3. GreenThumb

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    Let's get politically nakkid!

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    Oh yeah Democracy is not a personal presidential Trump : He is not our economic Jesus.. Vote yes prop 63!


    Freedom is in the Vote!
     
  4. GreenThumb

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    Offer something better or vote Yes please!


    We are all reading. What do you offer??


    Talk about steaming shit.
     
  5. GreenThumb

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    blazerwill420


    USA is not perfect nor is the political process. That we get a toehold means we are climbing.


    I do not know you but any lovin' is good loving at this point.


    Please share something better or devil get behind thee!
     
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  6. GreenThumb

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    Have we experienced bad laws before?


    Don't be a pussy vote yes!
     
  7. GreenThumb

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    I do not see anything that stops illicit trade if anyone is so concerned. Go for it take your chances James Dean! .
     
  8. GreenThumb

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    Bye the way Donald Trump is against Weed!
     
  9. GreenThumb

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    Sober for a number of years are you?


    It is primarily an entry point. Like any one complies with bad laws?


    I am not one to defend that which is defined by lawyers.


    Do I want the least of freedom where I live? Yes, Yes I do!


    Can you give it to me? Doubtful.. Prop 63 offers me hope!
     
  10. OldSmokey

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    Looks like CANORML's position is that I can have my imaginary homegrown hundred pounds at home under lock and key and as long as I only have an ounce away from home, it's all good. If I'm a bad guy, the fine is $250. One thing I'm still puzzled about is whether my 6 non-commercial plants would be subject to tax.


    Hey Blazerwill, what's the main thing that pisses you off about it? You seem pretty passionate about the subject.


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  11. GreenThumb

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    Get real gents.. We have opposed worse and survived,


    This is tame opposed to what we have faced before..
     
  12. OldSmokey

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    I could live with it, but I still don't like it. It'll probably pass though.
     
  13. ResinRubber

    ResinRubber Civilly disobedient/Mod

    Thanks Smokey. Good find. It echoes my natural skepticism. If somebody tells me not to worry, that's when I wonder why I shouldn't be worrying.
     
  14. GreenThumb

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    That is indeed strange. What is with the "Unknown Comic" ? Is a Helium voice really necessary?


    Indeed there will be issues to resolve and perhaps a "Snake in the Grass" (pun intended) but unless Lecitia Pepper is funding a better initiative with the profits from her Marijuana Business I will take a chance and vote YES on 64.


    As it stands now the punishment for growing any Marijuana outside of Medical is 18 months in Prison and is a Felony. At least AUMA changes that for us all.


    I watched the whole video and "Helium voiced Paper Bag Headed Man" can only have one reason to hide and that is if it fails he is a hero and if it passes he can walk among the rest of us and not get jeered because we won't know who he is. How lame is that video on the Lamo-Meter anyway?


    What I gathered out of watching that video is that AUMA is amendable and at least in bold print is intended to not take away Medical Rights. Also I got from watching that video was Ms Pepper is upset that it makes more legal problems for already established Marijuana industry. They will have to share the markets. They will be taxed more.


    Does AUMA stop a person who is in medical need from obtaining Marijuana? No proof of that was offered..


    It does seem to be a conversation on the struggle for the marijuana money and the marijuana market.


    Yes, it is a privilege for recreational use and cultivation. It has to be. Having a drivers license is a privilege too. No one is going to amend the Constitution of the United States to make Driver's licenses a Right. No one made alcohol a right under the Constitution either.


    It's a fantasy that Marijuana industry will become a constitutional right. It's a controlled substance no matter what it's classification!


    Is there a Magic Pill California can take and everything is equal and fair on anything especially Marijuana? Anyone?


    Saying no on 64 is not the answer this time around the legalization tree..


    If anyone can show how we can get the panacea (a solution or remedy for all difficulties or diseases) initiative written, funded and placed on the Ballot then voted into law please step forward and lead us.


    Simply voting no is not a step towards National Legalization.


    Look how far we have come against the laws and Governments we have faced. Establishing a State Marijuana industry yes AUMA does trespass on those already in the Marijuana Business but they are a closed club. What about access to commerce for the rest of us?


    Personally I'll take Six Plants Stanislaus County cannot take from me without a fight from me. Right now I cannot grow any legally according to the latest legal State mishap. A Mishap we have seen before.


    We may ask when will the fight end and Ms Pepper asks why mess with what has been hard fought and won. I point to the Abortion issue. I point to Race relationships in USA. I point to Clinton and Trump, I point to Gun control, Same sex marriage and the list goes on and on. The answer is never. We will never stop the Democratic process so roll up your sleeves, hold your nose and vote YES on 64! Take a, albeit unsure, step toward the End of Marijuana Prohibition but take that step.


    With only 51% needed to amend we have the ability to work things out. Nothing is written in Stone.


    Personally I understood that both sides of the debate in that video are united against the outdoor growing ban. That would be the very first thing I want to see changed too.. How about you will you sign the initiative to change that part of the Law?


    As for regulations in local jurisdictions? It seems to me to be related to the wealth of the residents of the areas concerned as to what freedoms they have. Isn't it always the poor who pay the price.


    What are your plans in a Legal California?


    So last words here : No one else could get funded this time nor the last time and most likely not next time either if this fails to pass.


    YES on 64! Simply saying no is not the solution.
     
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  15. GreenThumb

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    As for having 100 pounds in your house you grew well that is an awful lot but having a selection in air tight jars from times before that add up to pounds might be akin to a Wine collection.


    To prove in court that one grew say X Pounds a simple DNA test can take care of that.


    As always a pile of weed being packaged into individual packets is mighty suspicious to the police.
     

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