clone machine

K I will try it. But I'm 300 or so miles north of you. Longer periods of low temps/hum up here. And sadly I pull air from the basement, which gets cold/dry in winter. If I was pulling from living space might be different.

 

ive always been in a basement, not living are either


and don't act like your in Nome,Ak...im in Pittsburgh..your like 4hours away:roffl:


im just saying that ive NEVER used a dome on my cloners, honestly didn't even know they made such a device

 

I too have always grown in a basement, and never had a problem with cloning or growing. Humidity always runs between 47 and 55. :bong-2:

 

I've never used a dome for clones either. Like CC said, in less than 2 weeks the roots are about 5-10 inches long.

 

I use a dome, usually 10-14 days for roots to show. Does everyone use a heat mat? My room temp stays about 75. Didn't think i needed one.

 

I use a heat mat in the winter cuz my temps are routinely in the 60's.


CC last year my RH read 16 - the lowest setting on my gauge - basically from October to April. Combine that with cool temps and the dome is the only way to go. I've tried without it and in two days all is wilted and limp.


Reason my basement is cold and dry is that it's 150 years old and very poorly insulated to the outside. I mean shit I actually have a creek flowing across my floor during heavy rains. You can see daylight from 100 diff cracks and crevices, and when the wind blows outside it stirs the air. Also my rooms are small (compared to your old basement rooms that I saw in your video tour BOOM! more plants) and to run HID lights I gotta keep the air moving. My lung room is the basement.


Anyway I'm switching to using a cloning machine so maybe it will be different. Like I said I'll try it w/o a dome. But I will be glad to have it in case I need it.


I will of course continue the effort to improve the environment, but the only real solution is get out of my basement. It's a pretty poor place to set up. Low ceilings, standing water in summer, cold in winter. Gotta do whatcha gotta do tho.

 

never ever used or owned a heat mat

 

you guys add anything to the res water in your cloners? There is a bewildering array of products referenced by the manufacturer.

 

God no! Strait water...then after its empty...use hard bristle brush to scrub...fill back up with clean water...turn it on and add 1 entire bottle of regular old peroxide 3%...let run for 36 hours, empty and put back to normal use


I've been doing it this way for over 6 years...learned it from a few old heads and it's never failed me or the few peeps I know who do it the same......if u get any funky in the manifold, it's almost impossible to get clean again and in most cases it will infect your setup fo lyfe!

 

For aero or bubbler Just water. No gels/powders, nothing.. Just a light feed if there was an extended stay. LOL can definitely make something functional. Though unless you're extremely anal retentive or ocd the construction will be of no match. LOL

 

I used to add Clone-x liquid but that was a waist of money. Not that it hurt, but it wasn't a vast improvement. I do add a little Superthrive. Whether it's a big factor or not, uuhh, but I do anyway. Plain clean water works fine!!


Like CC said, The H2O2 and scrubbing the slime and algae away regularly is a must. It's not really as complicated as you think. All those products just makes somebody more money.


Be Cool, CG

 

Right on. Got it. Thank you! :coool:


BTW I was in such a rush to get the thing up and running tonight I failed to take any pics for a review or whatever. It's a Botanicare 45 site. Pretty slick.

 

I have had success with rw too, but I feel it will be overall easier and more reliable to use the cloner. For me it's a bit of a guessing game keeping the rw cubes at the optimum wetness and growing plants that aren't the easiest to clone to begin with, every month I get a pucker waiting on my cuts to root. Seasonal variation in RH and temp too so I can't sort of set the program and forget. I get 100% rooting each time, but it's taking 10-15 days for roots. Too damn long.

 

KLN and pro-tek. Light dose. Inexpensive and works great.

 

Well now that you mention it, there are some factors contributing to my lack of confidence in RW. The last few rounds I have been forced to take REALLY small cuts. The stems are soft, so I only scraped half the stem this last time around.


The temps have been very warm like low 80's high 70's so I have not used a heat mat. I think the temps have been OK. This time I think my problem was small cuts and too little scraping.


I just put 40 or so cuts into the clonerator two days ago so we shall see how quick they root. These cuts were taken two weeks into flower.

 

Not that I'm a expert cloner but i only scrape the stem on older stiffer cuts. I need to try a heat mat, it takes 10-14 for mine to root in a humidity dome type set up at room temp.

 

You know, I've tried several methods of preparing the stem in the cloner. From making a number on little diagonal scores to scratching off small areas to pretty much everything I could think of. But the most productive for me is to take a sterile razor or anything with a very sharp tip and make 1 incision the entire length of the stem. Not too deep, just enough to break the skin.


I'm sure other methods work. But that's worked best for me lately. What ever works, do it! I just like to experiment a little and see what happens. We're always looking for a better way, so maybe try a few, keep them separated and compare the results and see what works best for you. Gook Luck !!!!!!!


Be Cool, CG