Defoliation

Discussion in 'Advanced Cultivation' started by Dumme, Jun 2, 2017.

  1. Lvstickybud

    Lvstickybud Bongmaster

    I've read this a couple of times and all I can say is......Know your audience. We are well aware of what goes on (even if we can't put it into words) while growing, defoliating, cutting lower limbs, more light, less light, what gets light, what doesn't, hydro, soil, etc. Like I said...know your audience.
     
  2. SuperMoChombo

    SuperMoChombo Well-Known Member

    "A plant transports dissolved sugars and amino acids in solution through a component of its vascular tissue called the phloem. The movement of fluid in the phloem... can occur in any direction, up or down the plant. However, the fluid typically flows from source cells to sink cells. Source cells are cells that produce sugars and pump them into the phloem, ...whereas sink cells are cells that do not make enough sugars for their own growth and metabolism and must import them from the phloem."

    Great link Dumme thanks for that. I know to a lot of folks this is basic, but that's where I am at in the academic world of botany. I had to edit the text above to focus it on my particular interest. Which is growing pot - er - cannabis, for fun and profit! But to me it reads easier and communicates better without the additional stuff.

    So for defoliation - I think it's a useful tool, and in the hands of the skilled grower, and in combination with other techniques can redirect plant growth to create more marketable weight AND less trimming hassle (which is very important for the single handed sailor). How much defoliation, when, etc. is very much dependent on the plant, the grow style, the grower, the purpose.

    Sometimes I'm a tucker. Sometimes a plucker. Always an ucker of some kind.

    http://www.pbo.co.uk/seamanship/shortening-sail-single-handed-24295
     
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  3. SuperMoChombo

    SuperMoChombo Well-Known Member

    One More Thought

    I am at the end of week 5, beginning of week 6. They will get food another week, then I start the flush for 14 days.

    I just noticed that there are a shit ton of dead and wrinkled fan leaves all though out the bush. The rest of the plant is green and healthy. I spend collectively hours probably plucking them out by hand one by one as I pace around the rooms throughout the day.

    Now it is probably true I am underfeeding them. They look a little yellow especially under the HPS. But the thought occurred to me that the plant does a certain amount of it's own defoliation just by nature.
     
  4. blazerwill420

    blazerwill420 Fuck AUMA

    How much does bb's cheese stretch?
     
  5. SuperMoChombo

    SuperMoChombo Well-Known Member

    Not much, at least indoors. I get 6-8" of vertical growth in flower. that's on a plant about 15" tall at flip.
     
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  6. blazerwill420

    blazerwill420 Fuck AUMA

    Good to know, I try to let my plants only get so tall before they flower otherwise they go higher than the fence when they stretch. Flowering starts in about 3/4 weeks and they stretch for about a month.
     
  7. ResinRubber

    ResinRubber Civilly disobedient/Mod

    You'll get about a 30%-40% stretch from BB's Cheese. It really doesn't shoot up at all. More energy tends to go to lower branching that in turn needs to be thinned out.
     
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  8. blazerwill420

    blazerwill420 Fuck AUMA

    I just thinned it and took cuts a couple of weeks ago, just got roots on them yesterday, going to run them in hempy outside so I can get a look at how they do in hydro. All the plants get thinned pretty good from now until they flower. Looking at Paul's cheese, it looks like it's going to stretch hard. We shall see.
     
  9. SuperMoChombo

    SuperMoChombo Well-Known Member

    ya know now that you mention it i had a friend grow out a few of BB's Cheese in her backyard last summer. When i saw them i thought they were diesel. they did stretch over head height. Huge bush easily 6' high. I don't remember what size they were when she planted them but I know they were started indoors. I also don't remember when she put them out. So I need to edit my comment above and say i think it can stretch pretty good outdoors. I chalked it up to not topping, maybe. I top all my plants at least once in veg. I don't think she did at all.
     

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