Growing myths debunked (open discussion)

any real hunter will tell you

human hair scattered around will get rid of all beasts of infestation, i use my own hair cause i dont go to no barber, hair stylist, nor chic with a clipper set.


check it out.

 

Dude!!!!


Geheim....:qbluewacko: That's weird........ I'm NOT kidding you, my stepmom told me about that JUST TODAY!....Lol(are YOU the spy?...lol... )....This little book was saying to put the hair in bags, like maybe pantyhose, and hang them around the perimeter of the yard....? Poor deer, lol, we plop houses down and then hang offensive odorific things in our yummy looking yards.....They must think we're FREAKS....lol!:qbluewacko:

 

Marking by whatever means...


Hair can be matched up in the lab.


Kinda like leaving finger prints all over.


I read a grow guide recommending the use of your dog's hair in your soil mix to improve aeration - same problem (this guide also recommended urine 8oz to a gal for nitrogen).


I recommended pissing at the site to friend who's last crop went to the elk.


He said NO WAY, the dogs will get your scent. He seemed to think that they could even pick it up in a passing vehicle... seemed unlikely to me but hey it's his ass not mine.


Just food for though - stay safe all!

 

I watch a lot of CSI and im pretty sure the only way they can get DNA is if the end "root" of the hair is there. I dont think they can get DNA from hair that you cut off.


Who knows tho, it is a tv show.

 

Thats correct you have to have a follicle attached. Here is a good little site with a quiz/tutorial over this subject that explains some of those things a little, figured you might be interested in it. http://www.biology.arizona.edu/human_bio/problem_sets/DNA_forensics_2/06t.html

 

Cool!


Now we know that they can't get DNA from the peeing around the plants, lolottytrain1: ....Pretty cool link, Skunky...


I was thinking about the bags of hair thing the other day, as I watched 5 deer nonchalantly spring OVER my newly built FENCE:scream:


:qbluewacko: Go to a salon, and get it...Wouldn't be mine,.....

 

Soil and Hydro buds taste different?


I may have missed this in the previous 15 pages, it's been a while since I read the whole thing...


I've heard time and again (most recently @ the "Cannabis College" in Amsterdam) that buds grown organically in soil taste and smell better than Hydro grown. Some even go so far as to say "more potent" and better yield.


I've never grown Hydro and have been very curious about this. It's been my understanding that you get better yields growing hydro and that you may shave a week or two off of your harvest time.


Mr Greenjeans has grown the same strain both ways and reports that with a proper flush there is no difference in smell/taste/high.


Seems like a good candidate for busted MYTH.


Feed back?

 

Deer Hunter.


I'm an avid deer hunter and gardener. I tried several diff. approaches to keep the deer out of my garden. From pissing all over the place to dumping ashtrays out near the site. I found this product for around $50. http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10151&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&partNumber=55320&hvarTarget=search&cmCat=SearchResults This may look a bit conspicuous for some sites, if not hidden well.

 

If cops have the time and money to call in the investigators to collect hair samples from a site, have them analyzed for DNA, and then find a way to match it against yours (easier if you have been in the system or they suspect it is you already), all for a few pot plants, more power to them......wouldn't hold up in court at all as evidence in the long run anyway.

 

Not sure if someone posted it and I missed it, but here's a link to a very informative series of horticultural mythbusting:


Horticultural Myths


Also, here's one she did on SuperThrive:


The SuperThrive Myth


And since it was missing from her list, I sent her (Linda the horticulturist) an e-mail asking about the validity of 'phases of the moon' gardening, and she said...well...here's her quote:


"Dear Rusty:


"Moon phases do have a significant effect on certain ecosystems and organisms, most notably marine species who are influenced by tidal shifts. Additionally, there are a number of nocturnal insects, like moths, that are affected by the phase of the moon. Terrestrial plants, however, have no known response to moon phases and "gardening by the moon" is not based on any reputable or repeatable science.


I did a quick review of the literature on this topic; there are less than 20 over the last several decades. Most of the papers are not published in English, though the abstracts are. Though a few articles claim lunar effect on some plant attribute or another, there is no cohesive connection among these papers, and in fact most of the articles strongly refute any such effect.


The only explanation that might exist for any differences in plant responses that coincide with lunar cycles would be if a plant's pollinators or pests had lunar-dependent cycles. That in turn could influence their activity on plants, which would then show effects based on insect activity. But this is not a direct influence of the moon on the plant.


Hope this is helpful -


Linda"


Her papers are insightful and somewhat easy to read. Well worth the time and effort. Some I found handy were the papers on epsom salts, compost tea's, foliar feeding, bone meal...


Hope this is as useful to others as it has been for me.

 

Has anyone tried to use garlic powder to chase away fungus gnats? Well I have and it worked. After sprinkling the powder around the top of the soil I could see the gnats freaking out. They dont like it one bit. They would fly out then try to fly back in, the garlic powder has taken care of them eversince. I dont know how or why they dont like it but all I do know is it worked. Has anybody ever heard of this remedy?

 

fungus gnats


try diotomite (diotomatious earth food grade )

 

The one earlier about keeping a male around to enduce more females from seed grow: I do it, my data suggests it works. There is no myth about whether plants communicate or not. That's scientific fact.


The one about 24/0 lights vs 18/6. Isn't it obvious the plants will be more healthy with some lights out? That's my observation, many times over. When they appear tired or droopy, lights out perks em up, every time. This being veg light bill not as important, but it adds up.


Gnats. I get em occasionally and find ridding them is a bit of a process, whether due to the life cycle stages or reinfestation from intruding adults. Might take a couple weeks or more, but cleaning the area, keeping plants dry as possible(be careful, not worth underwatering), topping with perlite, and yellow sticky traps(nonchem) to guage number of adults and remove them, will eventually do it. Gnatrol works. Gonna try the DTE.

 

whaow, thats a lotta pages to get to this point....gr8 thread though


i know a lotta girls out there do like the golden showers, but i think no good for the green girls, good around the outdoor grow for sure, i wouldnt use the menstral fluid in the outdoor grow though. bears are brutal in a nice patch. i learned this by leaving some corry's slug bait around the base of the girls. i think this is what attracted him. i imagine with the amount of bait and buds old blacky gorfed down he copped a pretty good buzz. yes he did even come back for more. eventually i named him reefer.


i have heard that......if you take a cutting of a cutting, of a cutting, of a cutting, of a cutting, of a cutting, etc. the plant slowly get less productive.


myth or fact?

 

Couldn't find the reg DTE, but got an omri product called D-E-Plus, Diotomacious earth with bait. It apparently kills the adults also. One application, top of pot and bottom, and they are completely gone, no crawling larvae, no adults. Just a light dusting!

 

May have to give it a try.


There are few growers having problems with them now. I hope they try it and give results.

 

Good old read....bump

 

No , and it won't work with even more destructive wildlife than deer either. The worst thing you can have happen to your outdoor is to have a group of wild/feral hogs decide that they're stoners.


The soil will be well tilled for the next year however.

 

Site your source of scientific proof, please. If this is in fact verified I'd love to actually know. The only way I can think of that this would work, though, is through the presence of pollen in the air. If there is another way I'm interested in reading about it.

Of course it works. ANYTHING that smells like a human, or for that matter any smell in general that an animal does not encounter in its natural environment on a day to day basis, will repel them. On the other hand, it works only so long as it actively smells. Depending on how much piss is spread around, and how much it rains (or anything else that'll neutralize / dilute the smell), the effectiveness of this method will be longer or shorter.


If an animal is already used to the smell of humans this probably won't work. So if you're planting within like 200-300 meters of a hunting cabin that is frequented by people, the deer that live near it are already used to and no longer afraid of the smell.


Moral of the story: pissing around your site works, provided a) the animals in the area are not accustomed to the scent, and b) the scent actively remains in the air.