Lemonberry & Girl Scout Cookie under Indus LEDs

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  1. ducrider

    ducrider growing your mamas weed

    I'm getting close boss.. The first one gave me 3 1/2 zips & the one I took down last night looks to be close to the same... maybe a bit less but still well over 2 zips.:passsit:
  2. Justcheckingitout

    Justcheckingitout GK Old Timer

    Oh man I have some competition here. Maybe I can still get a shirt for second place? :coolbounce: one things for sure, this contest is going to be one of the best with buds like yours and mine. Cant wait to see everyone elses.

    Great looking plants.
  3. ducrider

    ducrider growing your mamas weed

    Something tells me the best buds of this month haven't been seen much less talked about... you know we've got a lot of sleepers around here just cranking out winners not stop that never see the light of day .. I like the smack talk tho.. good fun... :redbong:

    did a little house keeping in room 1 last night, ya know cleanliness being next to godliness and all. I've not had bugs for a couple of years now and I aim to keep it that way!

    These lucky ladies have 3 weeks to veg & be trimmed to stay on schedule & be 5 weeks behind flower room 2.

  4. ducrider

    ducrider growing your mamas weed

    ROOM #2


    before final trimming:



    and after breaking out the shears:5eek: just can't bring myself to go all "MGJ" on them :roffl:


  5. ducrider

    ducrider growing your mamas weed

    Blue Widow.. It's a love hate relationship with this one. I love the quality of the smoke, it's got great bag appeal, flavor and a decent high but it's not holding it's own in the growroom as compared to the other strains I have on hand. I've kept a mom just in case but this along with the single plant currently in room 1 will probably be the last of it for a while.. Lemon Berry, Girl Scout Cookie, White Rhino & the cut I've got of Confidential Cheese all blow it way. AK-47 is probably going to get the axe as well, It's good producer I'm just not sold on what It produces..

    Blue Widow in the rack.. It's just about ready for weighing but not expecting the pile hit much more then 3 zips total.. pretty shitty for two plants that size compared to the others. Confidential cheese by comparison gave me almost 6 zips from 2 plants of solid solid nugs....


    I'll happily eat my own words on this one... final weight on the Blue Widow was 5.4 zips from two plants bringing the total for this run to a touch over 22 zips. My best run by a sold 8 ounces. Yet still the fate of Blue Widow is unsure...
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  6. ducrider

    ducrider growing your mamas weed

    SAY CHEESE.. It's the cheesiest

  7. ducrider

    ducrider growing your mamas weed

  8. ducrider

    ducrider growing your mamas weed



    I broke out the clamp meter this evening & gathered some real world numbers of the LED rig in room #1. The rack of (3) 60" bars & (1) 40" bar measures roughly 40X60 and is centered over 28.2 square feet of floor space. The combined bars (19 clusters) draw 1117 watts (measured value)with works out to just under 40 watts per square foot. The round pictured yielded just over 22 zips or around 1/2 gram per watt, clearly there's room for improvement. That said the 40" bar (~230watts) wasn't added until the round had been flowering for 5 weeks.

    Room #2 is a tad smaller at 25 sq.ft with 902 watts of LED or 36 watts/ sq.ft.
  9. nippie

    nippie preachin' and pimpin'

    You may need to dial that bw in. I usually see about 3.5-4 with her, led and hps, actually well over that with hps. To me that's the biggest plus of her is she's a solid producer.
  10. nippie

    nippie preachin' and pimpin'

    And those lights....worth it or not?

    I'm scared to put away my hps systems for good but I think I prefer the led lights to hps, just seems like plants are happier under it.

    But dropping 1k to replace a system that cost 1k is kinda hard to do for me, it pains me looking at old 600s that I barely use anymore
  11. ducrider

    ducrider growing your mamas weed

    Nip they've all got to be dialed in quit a bit.

    The final yields for this round were as followed

    2 cheese -5.5 ounces super tight solid buds too to bottom

    1 chocolate rain- 2.2 ounces. Tons of little solid golf balls solid top to bottom

    4 AK 47- 9.3 ounces lots of small but solid buds almost all the way down.

    2 Blue Widow - 5.4 ounce. Big huge tops that were somewhat solid, maybe half the density of the cheese and AK. 1/3 of the way down and the buds while still plump become noticeable softer until you reach the bottom. I'll keep her around but I think the next few rounds
  12. ducrider

    ducrider growing your mamas weed

    Are the LEDs worth the cost of entry is the $100,000 question... At this point today with what I've been harvesting I'd have to say no they're not. This round I pulled in 22 zips from 28 square feet of floor space, pretty damn sure I could do that same with a twin 600 his set up. That said I'm expecting to see a substantial improvement as I refine my growing style ect. Personally I think two pounds per harvest in obtainable.. Would it be reasonable to expect the same from 2 600s? You've got this shit down pat, what would you expect pull from a room my size?

    Basically if this is as good as it gets (gram per watt) then two 600s may have been a better choice for me only running 2 rooms. I'm betting on continued improvements :)

  13. nippie

    nippie preachin' and pimpin'

    This is widow under led at just over 4 weeks. It's the older style not the bars if you now what i'm talking about. I'd think you may be able to push her a little harder and see what you come up with, but I agree with some of what you are saying, thus i tinkered around with that cross. But I would think she'd be on the higher end of production in most gardens



    As far as the new bars, thank you. Now I don't feel so bad waiting. I'm running roughly 2 lbs give or take in 16 sq ft under 1k.

    The other led produce, nice nugs from top to bottom and are dense as hell and really nice, but it's using more than a 600 as far as wattage and not putting out what a 6 would, but better product in my humble opinion. Not sure if it's because HPS gets hot spots or if the light is more usable
  14. ducrider

    ducrider growing your mamas weed

    You're a way better Farmer than I am nip, it's that simple. I'd feel safe in saying that you'd double my yield using my setup as it stands now. Hell I have 12 square feet of usable space using only 100 or so more watts & your pulling nearly a pound on me. It's me, not the lights :)
  15. ducrider

    ducrider growing your mamas weed

    I should be pulling the same as you using my smaller 900watt room. The current round of GSC & LB look promising!
  16. nippie

    nippie preachin' and pimpin'

    I doubt Duc that it's me being a better grower, I think there's just differences in what different strains like and growing techs etc. I was doing the table thing for a while and went back to what i know best and things have been good to me. That being said, youre organic and i'm not...soil vs hydro...etc etc. Hempys have always been good to me

    But I would see if you can't up her feed if you still got her going. Not sure what nutes etc to tell you to use because i would ask you about blooming in dirt, lol. But top her and she'll love you, and not a 1 node top, I mean top her and let her sides become her top and she produces that's why i posted the top view photo, you can see how her branches are all even, it's because in veg i usually cut her back pretty hard to encourage that.

    you get me near dirt and i'm calling you, dx, res, greenjah etc for help.

    and if I could get the same weight from the led as hps i would switch it all tomorrow, I like the ones that I have, but just not sold on the bars even though I've seen DXE have some great success with them
  17. ducrider

    ducrider growing your mamas weed

    hmm That's a good point about BW liking to be topped quite a bit. The past few rounds I've backed off topping & saw improvements in the other strains, especially with the Confidential Cheese, everything but Blue Widow.. The next two rounds are already up on deck but I've kept two BW going in solo cups so I do have it on hand to bring back in to rotation.. It is good smoke!

    not as pretty as this one tho :)

  18. ResinRubber

    ResinRubber Civilly disobedient/Mod

    I see what your sayin' about the Blue Widow. All pretty and full of promise on top...then the lower buds just leave you feeling somehow unfulfilled. Kinda like bad sex. That happens when I crowd the garden too tight and don't rotate the plants.

    Two 600w nets 1.5lbs on average in my gardens. Very strain dependent. Sativa doms generally run a little light, but there are a few that pay back those extra few weeks flowering and go heavy. Indica doms generally run a little heavy.

    Think with some tweaking 2lbs+ for two 600w hps should be easily reachable. It all comes down to pruning for an even canopy and plant spacing .....and sometimes I'm just too damn lazy.
  19. nippie

    nippie preachin' and pimpin'

    Is that cheese?

    And she'll turn really pretty like that for you at the end. I didn't see that in the pix and didn't know if you trimmed that good or if she didn't respond well for you. Without seeing in progress pix I can't really say, but I'll post pix of that one in another month or so to show.

    I'm guessing soil it should be twice as nice and with your camera skills if you don't get a good stone you will have some damn fine pictures.
  20. nippie

    nippie preachin' and pimpin'

    I'm not sure if dort vs hydro is true as far as weight, I would guess it is, but pruning and spacing is where it's at. I'm sure the boss has to have an outstanding gpw ratio because even I admire his canopy.

    Or instead of having one head nug, you get 6, 8, 10 etc all within the same Sq ft. But this is totally strain dependant I've found, the chocolate like to be topped but to much pruning actually hurts overall production. But the widow when healthy can take it and actually like it.

    But I was running .75 gpw and switching back to hempys actually pushed me over .90 and gave me some more control over the reoccurring gh issue. Thus once again is because I make sure got a good mix going, if you got a strain that's has good production and overall appeal etc but might not the stoniest of stones dedicate so much space to it to allow for the production of specialty or house/head smoke you know.

    That and the strains with large node spacing I'm able to place two in same bucket but with a less veg time to take same space giving variety and specialty but also allowing for staple crop to be there

    Under a 1k I've ran so many different configurations I couldn't tell you them all. But was doing 1 per Sq ft with 16 under 1k. I went down to 1 plant per 16 inches squared with only 9 plants ( 5 gal buckets, some have 2 plants in same bucket) and production went up considerably with less fluff on the bottom

    You gotta find what works with what strain and then make that strain work for you

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