Plants wont start flowering?!

Discussion in 'Hydroponic Cultivation' started by shaun1says, May 15, 2013.

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  1. rasganjah

    rasganjah True Ganjaman

    I've ran a green cfl throughout an entire flower cycle without any issues. You guys are trippin'. Think about how bright the moon can bee outdoors. The plants still recognize the shift in light. A single green cfl in a flower room isn't going to cause them to stay in vegetative growth.
     
    rasganjah, May 16, 2013
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  2. Discorilla

    Discorilla Shining like a Discoball!

    It depends on if it is actually green, or just painted green. A bulb that is painted/tinted, will still give off the white frequency of light. If you were looking for one to use during lights out, I would go for the Greeneye brand LEDs.


    Those LEDs are in the correct color range, for not affecting the garden.
     
    Discorilla, May 16, 2013
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  3. nippie

    nippie preachin' and pimpin'

    I'd agree with Ras...I cant see a single bulb stopping flowering, if so I want that fucker and I'll take down my HPS systems.


    Hermies yes, stopping flower doubtful, not saying it could never happen, but I just can't see that but I haven't seen pictures of what the bulb is.


    I do remember reading about someone that was using an ipod to play music and it caused hermies that pol the rest of the females like a cascading effect and ruined a crop, but never stopping flower


    Did you check you timer? Seriously peak your head 4-6 times during sleepy time to make sure its not turning back on, then off, then on....it may be a bad timer
     
    nippie, May 16, 2013
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  4. teamster6

    teamster6 A Fat Sticky Bud

    Hell Ive used a regular hand held flashlight to check on plants several times when lights were off and never had any herms on several strains.


    t6
     
    teamster6, May 16, 2013
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  5. nippie

    nippie preachin' and pimpin'

    Yea I have done things many of times and never had issues. I try not to make a habit out of it but sometimes because of my schedule I have to bend the rules. Never had any real issues.


    But what wattage was the light and how close? I just can't see that, they look healthy so now worries on that, but I would ensure everything is working properly before moving forward so you don't have a hermie issue


    all in all though, nice looking girls
     
    nippie, May 16, 2013
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  6. ResinRubber

    ResinRubber Civilly disobedient/Mod

    And I've dumped entire flowering gardens into the light while I clean the room or cab. Once in awhile doesn't hurt a thing. Prolonged exposure to a light source that MAY be emitting a spectrum of usable light is simply not preferred. Ever. I dunno guys, but unless somebody comes up with something else I still say get rid of the light and give them another week to see what happens.


    If 4 weeks into 12/12 lighting the plants haven't expressed sex somethings up. If there is a regular source of light in the cabinet/room during dark hours I'm gonna think light pollution no matter what the color. Without specs on the bulb we don't KNOW the frequency of the spectrum being emitted.


    Ras- You're comparing outdoor to indoor which is a different animal. If moon cycles outdoor affected plant sex we'd all have a bunch of herms outdoor every full moon cycle.
     
    ResinRubber, May 16, 2013
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  7. shaun1says

    shaun1says Doin it in water

    Alright I have eliminated every variable I could think of. Green light is gone, all light leaks have been eliminated, timer has been checked-double checked- triple checked, and I am gonna keep it zipped tight during night. I guess it's a waiting/praying game now lol. Anyone have any sudgestions for nutes? They are on useless week 5 now.... Doesn't seem appropriate lol
     
    shaun1says, May 16, 2013
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  8. shaun1says

    shaun1says Doin it in water

    Oh and I'm switched to 11 hrs light
     
    shaun1says, May 16, 2013
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  9. nippie

    nippie preachin' and pimpin'

    Actually hitting with a boaster may help but you need to watch it.


    as soon as she starts to flower, count that as week 1. I havev week 1 plants with MOAB before but I cut flower week nutes in half and added MOAB. It seemed to help a little, but not worth the time to do it constantly.


    But the boaster may help....but don't think about flushing those in a couple of week!! Start you clock when you see some flowers forming
     
    nippie, May 16, 2013
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  10. Stash2.0

    Stash2.0 Harvested Fat Sticky Bud

    did you start flowering them while they were locked out ? health while transitioning is key
     
    Stash2.0, May 16, 2013
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  11. rasganjah

    rasganjah True Ganjaman

    I'm not saying it's entirely the same thing, but the plants will respond to the change in light even if there is a dim source of light during the dark hours. Indoors you could end up with herms if it's too bright, but a single green cfl is unlikely to be the cause of an entire room of plants not transitioning to flower.
     
    rasganjah, May 16, 2013
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  12. ResinRubber

    ResinRubber Civilly disobedient/Mod

    Would you hang a green light that's usually on during most dark hours in one of your gardens now?

    Very very true.
     
    ResinRubber, May 17, 2013
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  13. shaun1says

    shaun1says Doin it in water

    They were very healthy while transitioning. They still are, that's the weird part
     
    shaun1says, May 17, 2013
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  14. MrAstro

    MrAstro R.I.P

    I've thrown the lights on before (of course when Bud stopped-by) during dark with no problems, but I wouldn't hang any color light 24/7. What's the point, anyway?!
     
    MrAstro, May 17, 2013
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  15. Lvstickybud

    Lvstickybud Bongmaster

    My .02 cents, eliminate any light except your growing lights. It seems you did that. Check. Make sure it's going just 12/12. I know I've had those little pins move while I handled timers before without me knowing, so make sure to see that all pins for the timer are in their correct positions. The pins in my timers are in 15 minute intervals. Even by checking in on them you could miss if they come back on. Check the pins. Since you don't even have any pistols showing up yet I'd go with week 1 flowering nutes, at least till they start to show, then procede to week 2.
     
    Lvstickybud, May 17, 2013
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  16. teamster6

    teamster6 A Fat Sticky Bud

    oR RUN THE LUCAS FORMULA veg thrue flower and the mix never changes from start to finish
    t6
     
    teamster6, May 17, 2013
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  17. Midnight Garden

    Midnight Garden Excommunicated

    Shaun, fwiw I had this happen to me on my last table run. My issue was caused by taking plants that were started from seed and only three weeks old when I put them in flower


    These are 4 weeks into flower in this pic


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    And this is the rest of the table, mature clones also at 4 weeks of flower


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    Midnight Garden, May 17, 2013
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  18. rasganjah

    rasganjah True Ganjaman

    I'm not sure if I follow your question. I have green CFLs in my flower room right now as I type this. I usually have them off for the most part. Though, I have in the past left them on for extended periods of time (by accident. Usually forgot to turn them off) without any issues. Sometimes it's necessary to go into the flower room during dark periods for one reason or another.


    Do I recommend that everyone gets a green CFL and put it in their flower room and leave it on? Of course not. All I'm saying is that the green CFL is very unlikely to be the cause of Shaun's problem. :passsit:


    @MG- He said all of his plants were clones of the same strain. Not from seed. That was an initial thought I had too. Sexual immaturity. I don't think that is the case here.
     
    rasganjah, May 17, 2013
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  19. ResinRubber

    ResinRubber Civilly disobedient/Mod

    Unlikely? Maybe. Without a another, more definite, culprit it must be considered no matter how "unlikely".


    And why wouldn't you counsel them to keep a Homie DePot green cfl on in their flowering garden?
     
    ResinRubber, May 17, 2013
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  20. rasganjah

    rasganjah True Ganjaman

    All possible variables must be checked so of course it must be eliminated as the cause. That's easy enough. Unscrew the bulb and if they start flowering in 7-10 days then you know it was the green CFL. If not though I would reinstall the green CFL.


    I like mine and use them when needed. Several runs and several strains without any issues. Just speaking form my experience. I don't think the CFL is the culprit here but I could be wrong. I have been before and will be again. :passsit:
     
    rasganjah, May 17, 2013
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