HELL YEA MAN..... THEY ARE WELL WORTH IT IN THE LONG RUN OF THINGS MOS DEF MA MAN......... UL HAVE NO NEED FOR THE DE-ODERISER SOON IFF THATS THE CASE!!!LOL COL MA MAN GET 1 AND YE WILL BE LAUGHING I TAKE IT U HAVE ALL THE REST SET UP N EVERYTHING??? HOPE SO....... N KEEP GROWING N BE HAPPY UrBigBuddie..........
"Here is something else, if you grow inside and have carpet. Invest in a carpet shampooer and a hand held dirt devil. This way when you do your transplanting and get dirt on the carpet or have a nute spill that stains a little ....perhaps leading to a closet u can get it cleaned up quickly. I have a steam cleaner i keep full of water and cleaning solution, b/c i am such a dope and always spill stuff....peace... edit: and if you have white walls around the grow room door, then don't have soil covered fingerprints or handprints on the walls, clean that stuff up too...." ----------------- just line the floor with white poly plastic- like 10 er 15 bux for a big roll at home depot. you can throw it away after use, or save it for later...whole lot cheeper and easier.
that's why you put a disclaimer like me, and the other people on this site. Just copy and paste from me or somebody else. so if you get caught you can't get in more trouble cause of the disclaimer.
IPN Addresses One thing I've always wondered is how they don't supeona IPN addresses. Say someone posts some wonderful gardening work, can't they just use the IPN address to locate the users physical address?? Obviously not, but I am curious why "they" can't if anybody knows.
^^alas i thought a disclaimer would help me too lol when i first began...then i figured who give's a fuck ?????? i would grow in jail if i could sneak the seeds in lol
couldnt have put it better myself johnH.I do have a growing buddy but thats cos we started this growing shit together and besides hes my sisters partner and our partners dont have a clue about it all,all they care about is making sure they getting some high grade weed to smoke,lol.I use a few houses to grow my gardens but the people involved are the people who eventually sell my excess weed for me so they got more to lose by snitching than me,plus i have two apartments rented to me from my partners cousin who knows the score so i dont need to worry bout nosy landlords and besides most people think i still live at my dads house and thats where i get my lamps,etc sent to from webstes and just to make it look legit i grow tomatoe plants in my dads house so he dont suspect nothing and its a good smother in case the cops come calling,lol.The 1st time i grew a harvest i made the mistake of showing of my plants cos i was so chuffed at how good they were but b4 you knew it people were approaching me asking for weed for sale so LESSON LEARNED!I dont tell no one jack shit unless they are involved in my projects besides i keep them sweet by paying their electricity bills(well a percentage at least)and putting £££ in their pocket and the only time i get my hands dirty is when im actually changing soil or repotting,lol.Mind you it took me a while to get all this organised but a few of the more exprienced growers in my n/hood have taught me well,hence the nickname they gave me 'TheApprentice'.Im trying to make some friends with the farmers just outside the city cos i know a few of their pot smoking pals so if that works out im gonna get myself a greenhouse full of clones and start doing MASS PRODUCE.Betwen my mates and this site im learning lots and learning fast,the only thing that bugs me is when people advise you to do things that they havent even tried themselves!!! Only give out tried and tested advice,its no good saying 'i heard it from a guy' or 'i read it in a book',that defeats the purpose of this forum.Anyway you know what we say in scotland....'loose lips=no spliffs'.STOP SNITCHING! I watch the cops bust houses all over the city for hash yet all the heroin dealers walk about blatantly dealing in broad daylight sometimes outside junior schools!!!!Why are we persecuted for growing god damn herbs man!Time to decriminalise it at least,London did a trial run and the crime rate dropped considerably cos the cops stopped going after the weedmen and went after the coke/smack dealers instead.FREE THE WEED! Smoke on.
Disclaimers sorry to tell you this #69 but in reality that disclaimer at the bottom dont mean shit,honestly,even the more experienced guys on here who use disclaimers will admit that to you,it wont do you any harm but it wont do you any good either.Peace and fuck the weed police! :5masked: Smoke on
Yep Yep!! AGREE TOTAL!!!! SAME ol shit ere too ma friend!!!! Same idea with me ....... TOTALLY!!!! lol Ohhhhhh, by the way.....NICEEEE picture/Avater!!!!! lol:la: :5wow:
Be prepared I'm gonna be writing up an "Advanced Security" guide, for those of us who hypothetically get rid of some of the tomato plants we grow, or grow enough tomato's to supply a small city. More for the uptight and paranoid, with a lot of advanced techniques I've schemed up or have used.
staying low is the key offcourse, thats why i opend a online shop because if you go to a shop and are loading a truck full of goods that isn't exactly a low profile, now you may think yeah but ordering true internet isn't also a low profile, true for a part. Thats why we also have the option for downloading a form and you can fill this in and send it by eail or fax so none of your details are registerd, its safe and low profile.
Security I didn't see a security section so I put this here. I can't count the number of friends that have been busted cause they weren't aware of this knowledge. A must see video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3435730304776119545&q=busted+citizens+guide
Main thing is dont have foot traffic meet up some were in the boonies were u know that no body out there cares. You get alot of foot traffic and then u start to forget who comes to the house then u getta cop in some gangster ass clothes buying from u and snapping pictures from your neighbors bush then a week later after all your friends have came by to get theres the cops show up at every ones houses and u are going to prison for distributiing. WOOOO sounds like fun dont it
Security basics 101 (continued..) Seeing as this thread just got given a :bump: by FlowMasterHigh then i thought i would give Saxby's EXCELLENT google vid a bump up the thread cos it REALLY is a MUST SEE VIDEO regarding growing security,its summit that every member of this forum should have seen or is going to see,i aint watched it for ages but it really is a great video for the more security conscious minded aka every single damn one of us cultivators,lol. I thought i would maybe end or further this thread like JohnH intended to do by adding some neat links for you all regarding all issues to do with security,here are some video links about things like knowing your rights as a citizen and also links about laws in your state and even a link to an illustrated guide on making a homemade carbon scrubber to avoid the smell of MJ when growing,etc. Iv finished of the post with an excerpt on security from Jorge Cervantes:notworthy::notworthy::notworthy: 'Indoor growing bible',it covers all the basics.One of the things that you all should be aware of is>>Do you trust your partner Cos a lot of ppl end up busted due to drunken domestics and their partner will ring the cops and if they dont arrest the partner then usually the last war cry is they tell the cops you grow weed:disgust:..so always make sure if your partner knows about your grow then MAKE SURE YOU TRUST YOUR PARTNER 100% STAY SAFE.Cheersotleaf: What are the security issues when growing indoors? What are the security issues when growing indoors? Security, Excerpted from Section One, Indoor Marijuana Horticulture, The Indoor Bible Growers and tokers have been made into "the enemy" by the American government in the War on Drugs. It is the job of law enforcement to arrest the flower-growing enemy. To wage this war on US citizens, law enforcement wields an impressive arsenal, including draconian laws and high tech surveillance gizmos. Security Alert! Never tell anybody about any garden. Control where you go. Stay away from other grow houses, wild parties, real criminals, etc. Always take a friend's car to the grow store and go seldom. Travel with others whenever possible. Your car is easy to trace and follow. Keep your consumption habits reasonable; don't show large cash income. Buy large assets, houses and cars, over time. Don't ever tell anybody you are growing or even joke about growing. Always have a job and a reason for your activities. Keep a low profile. Security Alert! Don't talk on the phone about any garden. Keep your home and surrounding property in good repair. Make sure the house is painted, lawn mowed and garbage picked up. Keep electrical use to a reasonable amount and keep the air clean around the house. Have very few visitors and keep to yourself. Have minimal conversations with neighbors. Never trust anybody, friends, family - brother, sister, children, even your mother! In America, "Land of the Free", a grower can go to jail just for giving another grower advice! The RICO conspiracy laws were enacted to break up the Mafia. Today RICO laws are used against growers and non-growers alike. Under the law, a person that advises a grower to "water in the morning" is equally guilty of growing the marijuana garden, even if he never saw the garden. RICO laws tread on the very essence of the American Constitution. Security Alert! Don't show anybody any garden. Never visit or telephone other growers. If visiting another grow room, that grower can implicate you with circumstantial evidence and you are considered as guilty as the grower! Law enforcement has sophisticated telephone bugging devices, super sensitive directional microphones, infrared scopes, thermal imaging, etc. They can also subpoena telephone, Internet and electrical company records. Intimidating cops coerce electric company employees to break the law and give them the records. Tracking telephone numbers, including location, is very easy. There has been more than one case where law enforcement illegally acquired telephone records and placed illegal taps on garden store telephones. Police use telephone records to target grow houses. Always use pay telephones with an untraceable phone card or pay with coins. Lazy narcs also watch garden store parking lots and follow clients home. Security Alert! Pay bills in cash or with money orders. Pay all bills and make all purchases with cash. Cash tells no tales and leaves no trails. Pay for mail order merchandise with a money order. Have the merchandise sent to another address. Develop garden photos in a large city in a quick develop store. Remember, the film is not yours! Do not give your telephone number on the return film information. Photos should not show incriminating evidence. Don't photograph people, tattoos, addresses, etc. US residents should never show their grow show to anyone!!! Never tell anyone you are growing. Deny growing to everyone, always! You immediately change from a Weed Warrior to a helpless victim subject to extortion once anybody knows you are growing in the USA. When the cops arrest a "friend":icon_rolleyes::5sigh: that has seen your grow show to, they can legally use deception and intimidation to squeal on you. Beware! Interrogations can last for months! Law enforcement rewards jealous, hateful and vindictive "friends", lovers and enemies for implicating a grower under the RICO laws. Hundreds of thousands of growers have had their lives ruined in a matter of moments on testimony from a vindictive "friend". Security Checklist: Electric bill should be about the same as the neighbors and previous tenants Garden and grounds should be tidy and similar to neighbors No light leaks whatsoever Use friend's car to visit grow store No noise - humming, fan on/off at night, etc. - is audible day and night No strange odors including ozone smell All electrical outlets, fuses and connections must be grounded. Inspect electrical connections for signs of heat - blackened wires, melted connections and smelly wiring. Have a current fire extinguisher rated to put out wood, paper, grease, oil and electrical fires.When law enforcement has "evidence" of a growing operation, they look for more. They look at telephone, electric and shipping records for starters. A thermal imaging camera is most often used at this point. Occasionally they use dogs that are trained to sniff out marijuana. The information is used against the grower to obtain a search warrant. If there are plants discovered at the house, they continue to build the case against the grower by using anything the grower says. The police collect most of the information on the grower from the grower! Surround your property with a bed of cedar shavings instead of bark chips in the flowerbeds. Cedar shavings disguise other odors. Use an ozone generator to neutralize the marijuana fragrance. Have a ready reason for extra electrical consumption. Unload grow supplies a little bit at a time or from within a locked garage. Security Alert! Never admit to anything. Absentee owners are the best landlords. Make sure home inspections are done before you move into the home and the rental agreement should allow for an advance notification of inspections. Put the telephone, electricity, garbage, etc. in a friend's name. Grow in a rented home. If you own the home, it is often forfeited if you are suspected of growing. Curb noise and odors by sealing and insulating the grow room with "sound board". Similar to sheet rock, soundboard muffles sounds well. Install rubber feet or grommets on fan feet. Build an extra room or box (allow for air flow) around ballasts to muffle noise. Place a thick pad under ballasts to absorb vibrations. In-line fans are much quieter and efficient than squirrel-cage blowers. If light escapes from vents, give venting a 90-degree turn and paint the vent black where it turns. This will disappear all unwanted light. Ozone-treated air should discharge through a roof vent or chimney to decrease ground level odors. See "Ozone Generators". Be careful when installing a ceiling vent or when venting out chimney. Light shining out the chimney and around roof vents looks very suspicious! Security Alert! Stop pungent smells with an ozone generator. "All electric" homes are few and far between. Electrical use information from previous tenants might be available from the electric company. On the average, growers in the US can use one 1000-watt lamp per bedroom. This means a two bedroom home can host 2000 watts a three bedroom home 3000 watts, etc. Unhook the dryer and other appliances that draw much electricity. Turn the water heater down to 120 degrees and take showers at the gym. Stealing power from the electric company causes even more exposure than paying for it! The extra risk is insane and it's wrong to steal! Fortunate growers use the Equalizer, a device that makes electricity more efficient, see box. Manufactured by Western Water Farms, in BC, Canada, 1-800-533-9301, Ext. 1, will lower the amount of current recorded that the line is drawing. In other words, route your grow room electricity through this device and pay half the electrical bill. Very slick little unit! The reports on electricity savings on this device have been incredible. Security Alert! Do not steal electricity! Thermal Imaging Devices Now relatively inexpensive (about $13,000) thermal imaging devices are becoming more affordable for smaller police forces. Thermal-imaging devices have been used legally to measure the heat signature escaping from structures. This invasive "evidence" is used with other "evidence" to secure a search warrant. A recent Supeme Court decision declared the use of thermal imaging devices unconstitutional. Such heat sensing devices cannot be used to secure a search warrant for the interior of a private building. Super Size Secret: Grow efficiently and maximize all effort and expense to harvest a minimum of 0.5 grams per watt of light in the flowering room every month. One last bit of simple security detail: grow efficiently! Growers should harvest 0.5 grams of dried bud every month for each watt of light in the flowering room. Growers that do not harvest this much are cheating themselves and must master the basics of growing. Always grow fewer than 99 total plants. Federal laws require a five-year minimum sentence with no parole when convicted of growing 100 - 1000 plants. End of Excerpt Heres some great links regarding security and knowing your rights when busted,etc.Cheers:jj: Know Your Rights! You must always be aware of your rights as the cops will sometimes cross the boundaries just to get a bust,make them earn their wages:icon_wink:This is basic 'know yer rights' stuff but essential knowledge for those who might not be aware of their basic rights when the cops come calling at your home or if they stop you in the streets,etc. http://www.flexyourrights.org/at_your_door http://www.flexyourrights.org/street_stop_scenario Homemade carbon filter Hiding odour is a key security issue,heres a great link, well explained and illustrated guide >> http://www.tokerlounge.com/forum/upload ... .php?t=363 Growing laws in the USA http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?wtm_view=daily_news (This site will let you pick out the state you live in and it will tell you the laws on otleaf US Law per state. http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=6420 (on the left click the state you live in and see which one is less jail time and money.You don't want to do felony states!) BUSTED!: The Citizen's Guide to Surviving Police Encounters Watch this video on youtube on how to survive cop encounters
Another good idea.... Not my own tho. It was posted elsewhere. If you buy seedstock or stuff online use Visa gift cards. You can use them just like a regular credit card and they are untraceable if you use cash to buy them. It protects against unscrupulous vendors savaging your credit account and leaves no paper trail for LEO.
Agreed 100% agree:thumbsup: in fact happyhappyhighguy always mentions that this is his favourite method of buying online aswel as a few others on here like yourself,like you say the least of a paper trail left the better.ANY WAYS that can stop you appearingon the DEA radar or catching some 'heat' is best heeded too,ppl who ignore some of all the comments others have posted and quoted on this thread are crazy for gambling their freedom for what should be a fully legal for medicinal and industrial use plant:angry7eace:bongin:
