The Debate vs.God, Religion & Government

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  1. Toker2

    Toker2 Looking at a hot ass

    No though in their minds ? who can say


    Scripture is clear


    Hebrews 13:8


    Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.:passit:
     
  2. Administrator

    Administrator Administrator

    Having LIVED the 'Christian Faith' and broken free of it's brainwashing chains...I offer this.


    Let those who have eyes...see, and those who have ears...hear.


    Controlling The Minds Of The Masses: How It Is Done And Why


    Edit: I really liked this paragraph so I decided to add it to my post.

     
  3. Toker2

    Toker2 Looking at a hot ass

    weird dude your quoting Jesus?:passit:
     
  4. Toker2

    Toker2 Looking at a hot ass

    I bet ya fucking didn't expect to hear that from a Christian huh?


    LOL


    Naw man debating is my'' thing''.....I am a member of many fourms


    Both religious and political, as well as many other ones of interest.


    It keeps the mind sharp IMO.
     
  5. Toker2

    Toker2 Looking at a hot ass

    Did someone mention---


    Elites?


    Ah a student of Alex Jones? I am all too aware of the PtB, I know what


    some of the deal is like you and others......Only I know the Elites are Devil


    worshipers Because scripture warns us of this.


    I know who is really the puppet master according to scripture --its Satan


    and his demons[ufos?]


    His goal? Annihilation of human kind


    Why?


    Because if he can kill us all before Christ returns He avoids hell IMO If that possible
     
  6. Toker2

    Toker2 Looking at a hot ass

    I'm smoking one , got thru the first few responses and that purple hurt my old eyes man...........


    It will take a few to format a rebuttal, as for the Nazis thats in the political realm, in strictly spiritual terms the differences are many.


    I should have differentiated that
     
  7. Toker2

    Toker2 Looking at a hot ass

    Na my eyes suck......I wish you had a hankering to type in number 3-4 :rofl:


    My comps fries ..i tired to change the color of the page and it works for


    upfront but when i come to the thread its green again:passit:
     
  8. Administrator

    Administrator Administrator

    I never said I didn't believe in the teachings of Christ. I just believe that the Christian religion has interpreted things incorrectly.

    Actually I did. I've seen it time and again and it just proves my point that Christians today are in it to prove they're right rather than live by the teachings of Christ. That's the very same attitude that my own family exhibits and quite frankly it makes me wanna :puke: If you get off on things like this then you're in it for the wrong reasons IMO. You might want to spread your beliefs by actions rather than by words. I know for a fact that it gets you much farther with those who sit the fence line. Arrogance has been and always will be the downfall of Christianity. :siskel:
     
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  9. Toker2

    Toker2 Looking at a hot ass

    Aw come on man it was a joke--I don't like being miss manners but i can be if it offends not saying you said i was of course
     
  10. Administrator

    Administrator Administrator

    If was said in jest then I apologize Toker.


    I have known and still know many Christians who actually DO get off on making sure everyone knows THEY are right and everyone else is wrong. The whole time they are not practicing what they preach. It's a very sore spot for me and the main reason I started thinking outside the box to begin with. Once I did that....I started seeing just how I was hooked into the bullshit as well.


    I know the life man...as I said...I lived it. I have an insiders view of what really goes on in that particular religion. That's not to say there aren't some who truly see it for what it is and practice it on a daily basis.....but the majority just think THEY are right and to Hell with anyone that says otherwise. They close their minds and then proceed to look down their noses at the rest of humanity.


    I know missionaries, preachers, etc etc etc. I was damn near molested by someone who was VERY highly respected in the church...revered even. I too looked at this man for years as being someone I was supposed to emulate. Then I saw him for what he really was...I was 13.


    I won't debate the interpretation of the Bible nor will I debate what people should or should not do. I believe that doing right by people is what we're supposed to be doing. If we all did just that one little thing no wars would ever have to be fought. Follow the golden rule and do unto others.....the rest is all man-made shit that I have zero need for in my life. As I said...when I die I'll know if I am right or not. So will you. :idea:
     
  11. Toker2

    Toker2 Looking at a hot ass

    Fuck --pardon my English i just spent 20 Min's typing a response


    and my comp wiped it........one more time i suppose in the am


    I'm stoned and tired......apology accepted, great thread IMO


    folks speaking their minds and having respect.......good shit


    Ill try to sober up and formulate a coherent response tomorrow


    Thanked for the ability to exercise free speech Herb......fucking


    precious gift now a days:passit:
     
  12. LionLoves420

    LionLoves420 Lazy Days In The Sun

    Fuck free speech! I am right and you are wrong!


    OK, joking......


    I'll get on to my counterpoints now......or listen to Herb....I am not sure which........:smoke2:
     
  13. 4F2C0J

    4F2C0J STAYYY FLYYY

    Good thread, this might of been said but I rather read my new Dexter book then all those posts, lol.


    What happens if your faith is wrong? What if you wasted so much of your time devoted to your church. Just to finally die alone somewhere and realize as your taking your last breath on earth, damn this is it no hell no heaven just this LIFE that I never even lived to the fullest cause my bible said not to. Then you die and BLANK..........


    I am not afraid to die, I accept that this is it thanks to science and common sense of watching way to many funerals.


    OR


    What if it turns out their is a god and you were praying to the wrong god, and he tells you to buzz of cause you picked the wrong god.


    Lata,


    4F2C0J
     
  14. TheApprentice

    TheApprentice Retired.

    Good thread...

    :rofl: True. I aint saying im right or wrong for believing in a creator,i believe what i believe and i respect the next man for his beliefs.I dont believe though that just cos someone dont believe in a creator thAT they will go to hell or whatever.Surely anyone who created us would undersatand our complexities and our nature?It makes sense to think they would be just or merciful to me for all my sins:roll: Well heres hoping:beerchug: Great thread:thumbsup:
     
  15. Mermaid

    Mermaid ~Sea Of Green~

    Here is what I believe....women give birth and yes we will die. Where we go....not sure but it surely would have to be nicer then it is here? ;)


    My grandmother used to tell us this is hell and then there is heaven....she believed in jesus or god but never preached or shoved it down our throats.


    My dad thinks he will come back as a plant, tree, bird or animal. :thumbsup:


    Hopefully I will come back and be a dolphin that plays in the ocean.


    I respect whatever anyone believes in.....just respect mine and don't preach to me is all I ask. It is a personal choice IMO......peace! :animbong:
     
  16. TheApprentice

    TheApprentice Retired.

    can i get a witness...

    Can i get an AMEN:eusa_pray: Couldnt have said it better myself snick,in a believer kind of way,lol.Think for ourselves not as sheeple.'christian values' have good intent,people just use those values in the wrong way.Loved all the replies in this thread,good discussion.Peace:ebert:
     

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