The Purge

The firearm was there by mistake so there was no intention to violate company policy. I think intent matters especially since it was an isolated incident and up until that point I would probably be considered a model employee for the most part. I take full responsibility for making the mistake I made but in this situation I think a little perspective and benefit of doubt that it was an intentional violation of company policy would have been appropriate. Do they owe me perspective or benefit of doubt? No. Just would have been nice for management to have my back just a little bit seeing as hard as I worked for them as long as I did. Do they owe it to me to have my back a little bit? No. Just would have been nice not to get hung out to dry and abandoned to company policy with all of the other things that they let slide. Things that ARE intentional like selling drugs and stealing that goes on. Do any of those things mitigate MY violation of company policy? No. But perspective would have been nice. That's all I'm saying.

 

In the 9 months I worked for them I was given 2 promotions and 3 raises due to performance and willingness and ability to take on more responsibility, perform to specification and with efficiency new tasks delegated to me. I never called in to dump shifts on other people or leave them shorthanded and I was never sick at sea; even when I kind of was sick I still came in and did what I could. My 50% was better than most of my coworkers 150%. They had every reason to give me the benefit of doubt and they chose to sacrifice me at the alter of ultra-liberal fake outrage. Even though they had a right to do what they did that doesn't make it the right thing to do. Believing that you're in the right doesn't justify everything. The blind application of laws and policies without the benefit of perspective can lead to just as much wrong and injustice being inflicted as ignoring laws and policies. That's the point I'm trying to make here. Do they owe me perspective? No. I'm just saying that would have led to a more just outcome in my opinion. There has to be a middle ground between firing someone and not taking any action at all. It didn't have to be this way.

 

For one, I'm in. I can shoot and hit what I shoot at.


On the gun part, your lucky. If I was found to have a gun at work, hell even if it was found in a locked vehicle on my job site, I would be in jail. No questions asked and no explanation would get me out of it.


It seems like your co-workers are a bunch of prejudiced bastards, and yes, blacks can be some of the most prejudiced people that I have ever met to any other race around. I grew up a "white hoodie" and was looked down upon by MANY whites just because of where I was raised and to no surprise, I turned out better than most of them. I always got along with any race. Most people that know/knew me know that I believe in the old saying that I have used since a kid, " I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally." There are assholes in every race and you just happened to work with a bunch of them. Fuck 'em. Move on. It's obviouse that that place wasn't such a great place to work. I know I wouldn't want to be in that environment. I'd end up holding my on "Purge" when ever I got pissed off at all those assholes.

 

...and this is what happens when the liberal politicians get to have the laws be just black and white. They don't allow for any grey areas. Eveything is either good or bad.

 

I feel you on that man. In my state of nessee I didn't break any laws though because not only can a permit holder not be barred from having their firearms in their vehicles, even if it is on company property, but a permit holder can also carry concealed in an establishment that serves alcohol (like my job did) as long as they do not consume any alcohol themselves. I may have been in violation of company policy but I didn't break any laws in my state. nessee sucks sometimes but it's also great to live in a place with an old conservative state constitution that looks out for my 2nd amendment rights. And these ubber liberal fucktards hate that shit with with a passion so they sit back and wait for the slightest infraction to whip themselves up into a fake frenzy about so that they can cry "doom on you" because they can't change the laws the way they would like to.


Those bastards could hire convicted felons, gang members (there were teardrop tattoos EVERYWHERE), ex-prostitutes (hell a couple of them were current prostitutes), sell fucking heroin in the fucking bathroom and dish-room, and that's OK because people make mistakes. But if I make a mistake and bring my legally purchased and carried firearm in a safe and proper holster secured to my belt under my shirt (and under another shirt that's tucked in over the firearm so as to make sure that there is no firearm showing at any time) accidentally then it's fucking bye-bye blackbird for me? :wtf?:That's fucking bullshit any way you slice it!!!


I just landed a job that pays more than they were paying anyway so yeah fuck those bitches! I'm a pimp!

 

Fuck yeah man! Good to hear that you're still here to tell the story. And you bring up a very good point that the anti-gun crusaders don't understand or acknowledge: the fact that law abiding citizens can carry for self-defense benefits them as well as the carrier because now the criminals must take into account the variable that there is a possibility that they (the potential victim) might have a weapon. Criminals have to take into account not only the prevalence of firearms in our society but the fact that more and more law abiding citizens are carrying and the laws are beginning to support people who must use deadly force to protect themselves instead of pigeon-holing them as vigilantes and tying their hands.


It just seems like they look at it like I had a fucking rattlesnake hanging off of my hip that could jump out and bite them at any moment or like I had a fucking stick of dynamite on my hip that could blow us all sky-high if I made a false move. Completely and totally unreasonable and illogical way of thinking about guns and they feel like they're the reasonable ones. SMH.....


And yes I would be killing anyone that was trying to kill me; I'd just be more proactive about it and hunt them first. If that makes any sense to anyone. Anybody ever heard of the gun-line?


"You cross the gun-line and you will be shot. You trip and fall over the gun-line and you will be shot. You spit, you pee, you so much as stick your johnson out over the gun-line and you will be shot." Except the gun-line is a quarter mile radius around my house and on Purge-night I will be securing that area.

 

My "disposition"? So are you trying to say I'm crazy? Wow! OK. I guess that's what's up then. But just for my knowledge and future reference what do you feel my "disposition" is exactly?


And never did I state that having a permit means that I can do whatever I want do with a firearm. I take full responsibility for my part in my situation: I just disagree with the outcome.


And for clarification I was talking about what I would do in the unlikely event that it would be legal to be "hunting" someone in the first place. In that context I don't think that's as crazy-town as you make it sound.

 

OK. Anger is sometimes justifiable. Even the most well adjusted and reasonable minded person is not impervious to the emotion of anger. What is important is how a person responds to that anger. I have not nor do I ever plan on acting out anything I say here on this forum. I don't think anyone could read my statements and think that I'm seriously talking about doing this stuff imminently.


And I don't feel persecuted in general; just sometimes and by specific individuals. Even then I'm aware that if the feeling of persecution is allowed to run wild and uncontrolled it is likely to lead to an unreasonable interpretation of actions and reactions of others.


And as for my judgement I would have to point out that if I haven't started making bad decisions that are based on faulty reasoning and feelings of persecution yet I don't think I'm just gonna wake up one day at 33 and start to govern myself in that way.

 

It was not a conscious decision to violate my company policy because if I had the decision to make and the presence of mind to make it I would have deposited my firearm in the trunk of my car, the same way I did every other day I worked there. So that being said, I don't think that my self-control is the issue. Anyone can forget something from time to time and this was an isolated incident so I don't think self-control is the issue here.

 

I mean come on RR are you really saying that the fact that I have a permit and carry that I cannot get angry at ANYTHING for ANY reason? I don't think that's fair. You have a permit. Does anything ever upset you to the point that you are angry? Ever? Does that mean that you are more likely than not to shoot someone just because you're angry and you carry a firearm? Does the fact that I'm armed mean that I'm not supposed to ever consider that I'm being persecuted even when there is clear evidence that it is more likely than not that that is exactly what's going on? Am I supposed to not be subject the the same spectrum of emotions that any other person would feel simply because I carry a firearm for self-defense?


What is more important than the stimulus or state of mind of a person is their reaction to that stimulus and I don't think I'm more likely than any other reasonable and rational person do fly off of the handle and do something that I know to be morally wrong. And yes shooting people just because you are angry and or feel persecuted is morally wrong for the record. I wouldn't think I would have to say that but some people read things into statements that just aren't there and that's OK. I just have to clarify and hope that they are reasonable and haven't just decided that I'm a crazy person simply for expressing some thoughts. Dark thoughts admittedly but thoughts none-the-less.

 

I'm inclined to agree with every point that you made so you're preaching to the converted. It's the outcome that I disagree with not the fact that I have responsibility in this situation that I didn't exercise. Why would I be disingenuous now? The damage is already done. I have nothing to gain at this point by trying to re-paint my intentions to be more innocent than what they actually were. Forgetting to take a gun off one time is not tantamount to blanket irresponsibility and or a general attitude of irresponsibility with a firearm. That simply isn't true RR. But if you don't want to have dealings with me because of that then that is of coarse your decision that you have a right to make. Be well.

 

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I understand and respect your position RR.