This is when Jesus comes in handy!!!

Yeah your just pissed at him cos he refused to suck your balls Lion:coolbounce:

 

Your trying to apply rational behavior to what can best be described as a wholly selfish irrational mythical being, God.


If you're a God why would you need to resort to parlor tricks (when you can create universes raising the dead is a parlor trick by comparison) via human messengers to influence people into believing you?


edit..sorry. missed that this had already been postulated.

 

Course you need to make sense if your God. Im a parent and i need to make sense to my kid,i cant stand back all proud of myself like "i made you ,how good am i?All hail me" type thing:tvlaugh: Whose to say God dont answer to someone? We only have a fraction of the info required to assertain these things. If your a God and you wanna try bring back as many of your creations as possible then you have to try reach out to them on their level. I dont wanna bring the devil into this but if theres a devil telling people he smells bullshit then God DOES have to rationalise otherwise the devil wins the day. God says be good and shit and the devil says do what the fuck you want its all bullshit anyways.Who wins?The devil everytime. So God sends a real person down, a son. Beats an invisible devil and an invisible holy spirit right?Thats the way it makes sense in my head.Sort of. LOL.


Your all viewing a God as someone who dont answer to anyone and who lives with no rules and can do what he wants.It cant be like that.If God made us it makes sense he made us similar to him right? If we have rules and laws to abide to then he must to in some fashion.Hes a God of us and our universe but whose to say hes not one of many Gods in many universes? Possibilities are limitless but the reason we dont know of any such thing is cos we cant even grasp the little info we already have so why the hell is he gonna fill us in on the bigger picture?Besides we couldnt comprehend it just like if we try to imagine other universes,we cant grasp that shit cos we barely know about our one.Just my take:2c:

 

Who created evil?

 

maybe evil was there in the very beginning way before us,before God even?.Maybe Gods been fighting this evil all his days? We simply dont know. Its like what came first chicken or the egg,we dont know.All we can do is recognise that both chickens and eggs exist?:2c:

 

So why would the creator of evil need human emissaries to carry a battle against that of his own creation or something wholly out of our realm of understanding?

Or that they are a man made fabrication which simply does not exist.

 

Yeah fair enough i can buy that.So maybe the evil existed before us and before God then? God surely didnt just BE out of nowhere. The way i like to try imagine this is a much grander scale of which we are only a small grain o sand on a beach. Many universes,many diferent species of people and levels of intelligences.Many Gods even. I mean if Jesus is Gods son then it makes sense theres gotta be a Mother right?But the little writings we have dont mention this.But obviously there must be a God mother type person. That would suggest that if theres a mother god and a father god then who created them?If they WERE created then that would suggest theres other Gods. Maybe theres always been an evil?


Plato talks about the cycle of opposites,he says a big cant exist without a small or if someone is asleep then at one point they HAD to be awake type thing. So if theres evil there has to be good for evil to exist right?So maybe the two have always been there This is shit i can ponder on for hours and days man and this is why im genuinely interested in the concept of God.Not as we understand it in religious terms solely but in the grand scheme of things

 

So your disputing whether evil or good exist

 

Is evil simply a perception or is it a reality?

 

Id say evil EXISTS,without doubt it exists and is more than a perception:2c:

 

Quite easily if you take away mans arrogant perception that we are the only existence. If someone created our universe and everything in it then OUR existence only begins from that date. But everything else that existed outside of our petrie dish is existence before existence. All depends how far you wanna let your mind wander Lion. Its a shame you can only accept things if a scientist theorizes it for you man:sad4: Our existence aint the be all and end all:2c:

 

Who says its not how things work.There aint one person in this world qualified to say how things work outside of our own laws of physics in this universe. We acept space and time right?But not every universe has to be governed by the same laws.Yeah its speculation on my part but so is the guy who insists everything has to start and end. As for God having to be created,this is what iv been suggesting. And if he was created then who created the creator of the creator?It will numb your mind trying to grasp that shit. Its healthy to delve into things that challenge your beliefs and understanding man cos as sure as the days when men thought the earth was flat you can be sure that in the not to distant future there will be another discovery that will turn everything we know and think we know on its head. Im surprised as a philosopher Lion that you constrict your thoughts in this way man. I like looking at the universe and not knowing and for people to insist they know is false,none of us know or can comprehend whats out there and what came before us or what will be after us:2c:

 

holy fuck 12 pages...can someone give a run down so I dont spend the next 6 hours reading?

 

Aww shit nippies back:5eek: Basically Lion said Jesus isnt real ,i said prove it and we kinda been square dancing ever since:rofl6:

 

Ahhh, there's the problem. We're American, the burden of proof lays on the one making the claim. I think that's the problem, two totally different styles of justiice


BTW, can you prove that unicorns don't exist?asssit: