I am a female, born that way. I am just speaking for my family members btw, this does not count towards my not being in this conversation, I just did not want people to think I was taking any bravery credit for someone else. I am just their ally. :thumbsup: (also, just for the sake of this conversation which I am reading and no longer inserting my opinion in, since you all know it already....but you all should know being gay and being transgender are not mutually exclusive.)
If that kid had a manly type father in his life, Id bet my dick that he'd be more of a man by default, its a learned process IMO....when you have a child, some traits are already in place per their mom n dads traits....my kid just does the same stuff as me, well....cuz im her dad..and im not talking from what she sees me do either.. The gay community is simply not right IMO....keep children FAR away from them, my question is....what good comes from it??? Ive yet to hear a valid answer that has any weight besides the "good" parents are better than no parents BS........for 1, I had NO parents and im doing better than 90% of the people I know, cuz of the will to be something I was never given. Canna, you always have this live and let live type mentality, yet you still live at home with your mommy....still cant legitamitly support yourself....on random meds....saving the world one minute, blowing your top the next etc etc etc.... Whenever you mature and actually grow up, then maybe someone will take you serious, till then...
Some things are learned, some are innate. The question is; How much do we as parents reinforce the sexual identity of our immature children? Methinks it's a lot until they are older and able to fully shed parental reinforcement. Hell, I'm a proponent of waiting until sexual maturity before selecting sex in true hermaphroditic children instead of at birth as is commonly done now. Hormones are still developing, varying degrees of sexualizing is going on by parents, confusion at peer pressures, conflicting attractions continue to evolve well into young adulthood for many. Twelve is simply too young to understand, or predict, adult sexual identification. In my humble opinion anyway. My youngest played with trucks, rides board like a guy, can work on engines, is tough as fuck, hates girly shit and finally willingly wore her first dress at 16. Should I have assumed at 12 that she had lesbian tendencies or wanted to be a boy? Until a child reaches maturity NOTHING should be assumed or done that is irreversible.
I am living with my mother because my parents are smack dab in the middle of a divorce and my mother is my best friend. I CAN support myself but why live alone when there is a huge house empty? I am not on "random meds". I have been steadily seeing someone for my issues for a long time, maybe you should think about seeing someone for yours. I like how you think you know everything about me. I have lived alone for 5 years, why don't you ask the mods to check my IP address locations I have logged in from over the past 6 years you asshole. You are pretty much a horrible person, to be honest.
I could give a shit either way....writings on the wall, go save a whale Im just sayin what most of us think Meanwhile, she dropped 4 different posts taking shots at Hank and a few others, yet....im the one whos barked at:roffl: typical
The personal attacks will not be allowed. I will ask this ONE MORE TIME, because NO ONE here can answer it: When did YOU decide to be straight?
me? Well, when I was young, like 7-8-9 and my uncle had girly mags in his garage.....he walked out....I picked em up..looked thru em fairly intensly, saw big giant rock hard dicks, big boobs, pussys galore.......then I realized, EW dicks are gross and the boobs n pussys aren't, that's when.....here we are years later....2 kids and I never sucked a dick...fairly simple
WTF? :flipando: Seriously?? Keep the Gays away from the kids? Thats some REAL homophobe shit bullshit:disgust: My Little cousins Gay and im cagey at the best of time with people round my kid but lemme tell ya. Thats stereotyping a whole group of people as pedophiles at worst and negative influences at best.:icon_rolleyes::5sigh: Listen. If im honest,i dont want my kid to grow up to be Gay. No shame in it but from a selfish point of view i want the whole daughter in law and 2.4children for my boy. If he turns out gay then hes gay,no biggie although i would always wonder if its cos of summit i didnt do right. But i know for a fact my cousin did NOT choose to be Gay. WE KNEW HE WAS GAY FOR A LONG TIME BEFORE HE DID. His mannerisms,his character,just screamed Gay. And he had no Gay people around him to "influence" him. So that opened my eyes and i accept some people just aint comfortable in their own body or with the opposite sex. Im from a typical Glasgow scheme where Gay kids WOULD get a real hard time growing up. Its only in past few years cos of my cousin iv mde an effort to understand it. My take is ,and remember i lean to the concept of God,let them get married,let them have same rights as us.Who are we to decide what elements of society are acceptable and not.When you think along them lines your entering fascist schools of thought. Im a believer.I believe God will look after his own.Hes the Judge,not me. I dont know if these religious fks realise when the protest Gay shit they are actually disobeying nearly every fundamental lesson that Jesus taught. But to say keep the Gays away from the kids CC. Thats some 1970's retro homophobia.The Vintage Homophobia.:sad4:
I called bigots, bigots. You took it personal, like usual. Feel free to call me a libtard, a gay lover, whatever you want to call me. Tell me I disgust you. That is the kind of thing I say. And it is true. People like you and other bigots who hate on people for their own basic BEING disgust me. There is a big difference between that and what you said, taking it personally to my FAMILY.
Honestly though, I don't even care. Continue. What you said was full of fallacies anyways. -Libtard out
Get a clue dude.... It was just an example of how young people change their whole belief system. Canna straight tup called me biggot trash for posting my opinion. I never said I hated anyone. I have gay friends. They've been to my house. We worked together in close proximity. I just don't personally agree with their lifestyle. Chosen or not I don't have to like it. Am I tolerant of it? Yes as long as it doesn't affect me. The minute a gay dude hits on me or starts saying things that make me uncomfortable I have the right to say I don't feel comfortable with this. I have the right to not associate with them if I so choose. How does that make me biggot trash? I think they should have the same right as straight people. I don't think hate crimes are cool. SO :wtf?: I don't agree with everything CC said but he makes a couple good points about the gay thing an d about Canna. I'm done arguing any of this. asssit:
so at seven you were sexually aware that boobs turned you on and dicks didnt. Thats pretty much knowing your straight to me. im also pretty sure you also knew you were masculine in tour thoughts and behaviour. So why at seven did you know this but this tweleve year old cant know hes feminine? As far as i can remember ive always known i was straight, i also knew which of my school mates would turn out to be gay. Now if i knew that why cant this kid know he should be a girl??? As for the homophodia, i dont get it. That is learned behaviour. i know several gay couple with kids. They are great parents and do a great job, even more so due to the negativity that society places on their family unit and im in the uk which seems to be a lot more gay friendly!
If pornography decided your sexual orientation then I would be involved in gang bangs every weekend with some fucked up other shit, because of the porno video I saw accidentally when I was 6. That is the silliest thing I've ever heard, you decided you were straight because you were attracted to boobs and not penises...that would be the DEFINITION that it is ingrained in you. You didn't consciously choose to like boobs over penises. And Ras, 99.9% of gay men have no interest in you because you are straight. I highly doubt you have EVER been hit on by a gay person. Hell, I am hot as fuck and I don't get hit on by gay men, and myself and my wife have MANY gay friend circles. Separate but equal does NOT make ANYONE less of a bigot.
My point is that being gay or transgender is not a belief system. You cant learn to change it. Its a natural state that at best can be supressed but not changed.
When did I say separate? You guys are dumb. You think you're hot huh? Okay then... I won't touch that one. There are all kinds of gays. One friend of mine is a Bear. He's 6' 5" tall weighs 300+ lbs and is just a Bear of a man. One friend is a small little guy that like Twinks. I don't worry about being hit on by gay men, just that if I was I would probably stay away from that particular gay guy. Also there is a subculture of gay men that enjoy trying to get so called "straight" guys to come to the "Dark Side" as it were. It's a fantasy thing for many gay guys. I'm not ignorant of the homosexual world. I've even been to a gay dance club once. And yes I was hit on, and in that instance I politely told him that I was there with a gay friend but I was straight, just there to dance a little bit. No issues. Would I go back to a gay bar now? Probably not. I didn't like being hit on but in that situation I put myself there and so I can't fault anyone. You can think whatever you want about me but know this, YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT ME. We all know bits and pieces about each other from internet forum posts. I have gay friends and if you ask them if I am a biggot I guarantee they say NO WAY. asssit:
Lion, you seem like a cool dude, but gay men hit on straight men all the time. I used to work for the phone company annd there are tons, I mean tons to the point you'd say wtf of gay people emplyed by Ma Bell. I had more than a few gay guys tell me they could switch me, one even asked if he could "climb my pole" (phone techs will get it). Its like a challenge for some of them. We had a hot lipstick lesbian that a bunch of us wanted a piece of. Way more than 0.1% of gay guys hit on straight guys. Plus, with Ras's long dreads they'd be all over him. Crackin myself up!:jj:
