Wtf?

:eusa_shifty:Actually..... i did that for a bet once. She liked my accessories:tvlaugh: Shes still gay though. Just thought id throw that out there.Doesnt actually help the conversation..but...carry onopcorn2:

 

I have gay friends and some friends that have gay or lesbian parents. If you ask my opinionand judging from the people I know who were raised that way, I definitely think child raising should be kept to straight people. Now I'm not saying gays and lesbians didn't do a decent enough job of it but you can definitely tell there's something off with the child. Maybe the gender of the child plays a part as I've only known guys in this situation but they're both leaning towards the feminine side of the spectrum. A boy needs his father to teach him how to be a man and a mother to show him how a real woman should be. Need them both to show how they should react together. I don't believe in god but there is a reason we were made to procreate heterosexually.

 

Maybe. But who taught you how to be a man? I don't see how a lesbian could do that. Just like I don't think a gay couple could provide what a mother could. How's a man supposed to have ''mothers intuition''?

 

Jugg its stereotyping a whole people though,thats why i repleid to CC aswell. CC is right in the fact he says gay people have flaws just like anyone else. But on the same token there are sensible,good gay people too. Keeping the gay community away from kids is a little out of touch. Im NOT one of these populist ideas kinda guys.It takes me time to adapt to shit. This is the probem. We come from christian society. Our generation are rejecting christian values in every area,so how can we expect society as a whole to stay traditional.It dont work both ways. When people start thinking God is bullshit then this is part of parcel of the "new deal". Lot of people dont consider this when they promote the Heathen shit:tvlaugh: Live and let live is my philosophy. Iv got straight mates who are shitty parents.I know Gay people who could raise kids far better. Why deny them that

 

There's allways exceptions to the rule and I'm not talking about quality of parenting or whether the child is good or a fucktard. There's something that a father and mother together can give the child that far outweighs a father and father or mother and mother. There is a reason it takes a male and a female to produce a child. All heathen beliefs aside.

 

No i totally get what your saying. And while i agree in principle with that statement i also disagree. The same people who i hear in the UK saying a father and a mother give a kid the "proper" upbringing and stuff like that,are the same people who berate single parents as bringing up dysfunctional kids. Sure theres a lot of halfwit single parents but equally as many halfwit mum/dad combos. I think as long as Gay parents dont purposely set out to raise gay kids then theres no reason why they cant provide a caring loving home for a kid and raise them to be decent human beings. In fact theres a school of thought that would suggest the kids from same sex marriages would grow up to be a lot more tolerant of people with different values from themselves. This is how the world changes. Back in the day woman were 2nd class citizens with no voting rights etc. As that changed many people resisted it but it turned out alright in the end. When Black people were 2nd class citizens many fought against their civil rights but that turned out all right too. Change is always resisted. Sometimes though its pointless to try and hold back the tide. Let the evolution take its natural course

 

As a single father who has basically raised his two daughters on his own I take great offense at that type of thinking. It takes a caring conscientious parent. Two are better than one in like circumstances. Should our next judgement be hypochondriac parents who raise timid fearful children? Mentally unstable parents who raise unbalanced children. The assumptions and stereotyping going on here is astounding to say the least. Goes along the same line as the people who used to believe interracial adoption or marriage needed to be avoided.


CC...you mean the generation that made blowjobs illegal? The generation that wouldn't let you travel over state lines with your girlfriend? The generation that criminalized weed? The generation that stole the property and interred thousands of U.S. born citizens for no crime other than being of Asian heritage? They did some amazing things. They also did some pretty stupid things.


Get real guys...no gay guy is going to butt fuck you if you don't want it. Gay parents don't care what sexuality their children emerge with. They, like you, just want healthy children who live to be happy productive adults. They want to see them marry whomever they fall in love with. They want grandchildren. Sexual preference is the last concern on their list of what they want for their kids.....just like you.


Gay marriage and gay parenthood aren't what's ruining our country CC....gawd what a facile argument. We have corrupt politicians, intolerant bigots, idiot social engineering that creates more problems than it solves, a government that currently absorbs over 25% of every dollar we earn and you want to use a civil rights issue as a reason for the current mess we're in?


Use yer brain man...... this is EXACTLY the same argument that kept southern Jim Crow laws in effect. This is EXACTLY the same argument George Wallace used when he tried to deny young black adults the ability to go to state college. This is EXACTLY the same argument the Klan used(s) against anybody they feel is a mud race. You guys sure you want to hitch your wagon to the intellectual prowess of those types?

 

Good point Canna. I also know of at least one active Gay Growkind member who also frequents the forum and social media. Everyones allowed their opinion though. I might not agree with what gets said but we cant censor it. Our gay members will simply know which ones to avoid and which ones not to

 

Like I said, there's all ways the exception to the rule. It's not an issue with being good or bad, weak or strong or whatever argument being thrown out there. For the most part, the child is going to be missing a key element in their upbringing. Single parents, the same thing. Most single parents either have a spoiled brat for a child or raise a complete fucktard. No offense meant to any single parents or gay members here, but we are all allowed our opinion and this topic was of course going to spark a heated debate as there are going to be differing opinions across the board. And anyone who takes real offense to what get's said on an internet forum needs to grow a pair. I will and have told my opinions to anybody who asks, real or internet, gay or straight. No point in being a coward.

 

So you're saying you see no benefit in having both parents as to having just one? One working class parent does not have enough time to properly take care of and educate the child on their own. There are more failed attempts at a proper childhood upbringing from a single parent household apposed to a two parent household.