i agree its easier with two parent. whether they be gay or straight. Thing is though, me and my wife are together, but we both work full time. We see our son maybe as much, but probably less then a working class single parent family. So we spend less time together than the single parent, so are you saying the single family are providing a better upbring than me and my wife purely on the time they spend with their kids?
So using your example you have matured and taken maculine influences from the male figures in your life. So why cant this apply to a lesbian couple. Just because they are gay doesnt mean they dont have extended family and support structure. A lesbian couple do not exclusively hang around with women. Masuline influences are all over. Hell one of them will probably be butch as fuck anyway and make your uncle look like a nancy boy!
No I am not. A single parent has to work harder than a couple to support and raise the child. That leads to a more stressed out environment and less time spent making sure the kid gets the attention needed.
I'll see if I can get mrsganjah to weigh in on this. It's right up her alley. She's a Pre School Teacher with several degrees all specializing in early childhood development. She has had some students that have 2 moms. She has mentioned a couple times about the kids being confused by their family having 2 moms and no dad. I think 1 was a little girl and 1 was a boy. Both were showing symptoms of confusion and social development delay.
Jugg do you believe that? :sad4:. So im glad this threads established that Gay people cant be near kids and single parents raise fucktards and brats. Hey what do we think of foreign people?:tvlaugh: A single parent,in my case at least,doesnt have much of a social life at home or out so you tend to find that they spend a LOT of time with their kids when their not at school and weekends,etc. My Dad brought me up after my parents divorced ,albeit im not the best example of how NOT to raise a fucktard,and i saw my Dad a whole lot more than most kids whose Dad was always at the pub,work or wherever,leaving the Mum to do the parenting. Some of my mates dont really know their Dads at all. Jugg im surprised you subscribe to this kinda stereotypical thinking man. Its generalizing swathes of people based on your experience with a few. Some of the most evil characters on this planet,some of the most fucked up and retarded come from stable family homes with two parents and all that jazz. Flipside to that is some of the most innovative,creative and intelligent people from a shitload of areas in life came from single parent families. In fact it INSPIRED many to do well. 26% of the UK kids now live in single parent homes and they aint all "ghetto".I admit though that the "stats" are in your favour,but all the same you cant generalise the majority like that. http://www.closeronline.co.uk/2013/06/can-it-be-better-to-be-raised-in-a-single-parent-home Although one stat says that kids do better in single parent homes than they do in a home with two unhappy parents. So in a lot of cases its the best thing for the kid to be in a single parent home. Your entitled to your opinion of course. But rest assured my son will not grow up to be a fucktard and hes definitely not a spolied brat.Hes never knew his Mum really,knows of her. Doesnt know what hes missing and doesnt need what hes missing.I'll MAKE SURE hes not a "fucktard" How you gonna generalise like that man? Thats like me saying every kid who has Juggalo parents is gonna do this and that.Its bullshit.Your entitled to that opinion and im not personally offended,i just dont agree:2c:
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(EDITED BY A MOD WHO IS YOUR FRIEND)! Out. BTW..for a person who is part of a radically stereotyped social group you sure are one ignorant fucker.
I learned to become a man because I was taught integrity, honesty, courage, and to stand up for what is right, among other things. You don't have to be a male to teach those things, nor do you have to be a female to teach someone to cook, clean, or to play tea-time and dress up. Gender roles are an assigned societal thing. Women throughout history have always been the bread winners for hunter/gatherer cultures because they found the most food that was also the most nutritious. It wasn't until modern culture when food was secure that our roles reversed and men became the dominant sex.
Res, just cause your more articulate and point out topics that suit your argument, doesn't mean either, mine nor your view is whats correct...........thing is, in REALITY in daily life, everythings done wrong anymore....Me, personally, I don't want weed to be legal...since when is a blowjob illegal? I guess anyone can drum up a few off the wall goofy legal black holes.....in Georgia its legal to beat your wife for 1 hour on a certain day in August as long as its on courthouse steps, but cmon......and YEA im talking about the camps the Asians were in, just like Guantanamo bay of today, except we were in battle with Japan....gee no need to feel afraid in the 40s right? Cuz the Boston bombers weren't born citizens too huh? Guess we should let all natural borns just have their way huh, just cuz their born within certain boundries....cmon now....I guess you don't turn your head when you pass by a group of Muslims right? If you say you don't, your .... And you might want to believe that gay parents don't mind which way their kids swing in the long run, but if my dad was a manly man, chances are...im manly...if he hunts, id hunt...etc etc... Why does your daughter snowboard? Cuz mom did? doubt it....cuz YOU did, you were the influence..........and if lil mikey sees exceptionaly.. in your face man on man behavior or female on female, then the likelihood is he/she going to have the same thoughts and attributes. and to think you know the outlook on every single gay persons desire for their kids is insane, your generalizing I never said a thing about how civil rights swings our country....im more based on how the internet has sped up the ease of getting what you want as fast as it can be done, thus creating civil rights movements I suppose, nobody has the ability to reach the masses like they can in this world...protests of gay right were held to city by city, now you post your opinion and get the world behind you.........but ive yet to see how this "progress" of gay rights has benefitted daily life but its for sure degrading marriage, family and our countries foundation......its not my fault your not happy with the world you live in, mines just for other reasons than yours, doesn't mean im wrong or your right either...........and to lump in past cases of law is futile IMO, todays legal ways are far different from the past days of yester-year But hey....I don't care what anyone calls anyone, bigot, faggot, ******, cracker.....all it is, is words...I know who I am in deep....just cause I have a certain view, doesn't mean I live it to the bone in a public setting.....you wanna hug on a dude...2 girls together does nothing for me on a selfish level.....I'll just walk the other way, makes me feel uncomfortable and I don't want my kids to see it until they can process their own thoughts within proper education on the topic...call me whatever you guys want, to my core, I don't give a squirt what anyone thinks about me, never have never will......but ill take the shirt off my back for anyone in need, including a gay dude....I just don't think they should raise or adopt kids
CC i can respect a man who stands firm to his values even though the world around is changing theirs. I do respect that,in this day and age its almost "backwards" in the mainstream to believe in a God so i do respect that. On the other hand,the fact you dont agree with gay rights cos YOU have yet to see some benefit is offkey man. You could live your whole life and never see a benefit that YOU recognise,dont mean there isnt Gay people out there in all walks of life that are massively beneficial to our world though. Its a closed mind mentality. Why shouldnt they have equal rights? Is it fair for two gay people to be together all their lives and not bother anyone,they live in their own bubble affecting noone around them but then one dies and the other is entitled to ZERO widow pensions or ANYTHING. They only want to be treated like normal citizens. To deny them this right is to say "your not normal people,your abhorrent" etc. We cant judge a whole people cos of the sterotypical image we have of the few. Its like stoners,not every stoner is cool,some are way cool but others are dickheads period. Black people,some are ghetto fabulous and all tjhat jazz but does that make all black people the same? Course it doesnt and oyu dont need me to point that out.Iv met a lot of birds who are skanky whores,dont mean theres not some real sweethearts out there. Same applies to Gays,i might not swing their way but just because of one area of their life i might not fully understand doesnt mean i dont have anything in common with them in other areas. With respect CC,it just sounds a bit shortsighted or closeminded. Each to their own and your entitled to your opinion. Maybe it will soften in the future. On a totally serious note. How would you react if your kid turned out gay
Everybody is entitled to have an ignorant view or two. And you can trust me I'm ignorant to juggalos and such also. Most of us should not raise kids. Hell most juggalos can barely keep themselves out of shit let alone a kid. I've called CPS on more than one juggalo for neglecting their kid or shooting oxy into their arm in front of a toddler. My views on parenting are harsh for reasons that don't need to be expressed here on open forum. Hey man, I'm sure you're a hell of a father. Kind of a foot in the mouth situation here, haha. But you can't tell me, you're not going to have a harder go at it than a couple would. The shit you've been through made you stronger, your situation is a unique one IMO. Here, either you have a spouse, have a decent paying job that will support you with out working crazy hours, or you're hitting the clock for 60+ hour weeks. But now that I've managed to piss off some people I consider my friends, and at least one I care less about, I'll bow out of this convo.
No personal offence from my point of view Jugg,i just saw it as shortsighted. Hey we all entitled to an opinion. I disagree with you on this but cest la vie. I'll make sure my kid is an exception to the stats though. I do bust my balls to make sure he has everything he needs both materially,physically and emotionally. NOT because of what happened in recent times. Iv always felt as if i have to up my game more than the next parent purely cos where im from theres not many guys raise their kids so i always felt due to my past and due to being a guy that i got judged more. If another kid is dirty but comes from a good home its "Awwww,a dirty kid is a happy kid" but in my case i felt like people would be like "Have you seen how dirty that kid is,his Dad musnt wash him":tvlaugh:Iv ALWAYS felt that i cant just be a half decent Dad cos to be a single parent is hard enough BUT TO BE A SINGLE PARENT DAD AND GET CREDIT FOR IT THEN YOU HAVE TO RAISE THE BAR. I get compliments all the time on how iv raised him or how he behaves compared to other kids.Hes very considerate,very selfless and kinda sensitive when hes not boisterous. I take pride in him. Hes like the best MJ strain im ever gonna grow and i aint taking no shortcuts or skimping out on lights and using white gloss instead of mylar,im gonna do it right. I remember things from growing up where my dad didnt do right,not cos he was a shit dad but cos he brought me up in a time when guys SERIOUSLY didnt have their kids to raise alone.Areas my Dad coulda improved on im making sure i improve on. I honestly get very self aware,self conscious when it comes to how people see me as a signle parent.I think it stems from my past being colourful and me being a guy in equal measures.Throw in recent events and you can see how i could get a complex about people labelling me a shitty parent. I do go the extra mile as oyu suggest.But so to do other single parents. This is why not every single parent is gonna raise "statistically challenged children" Sounds stupid right? Thats the way i see it.Iv had people tell me no one thinks this way but it dont stop me going the extra mile. Hell even all the drama that happened in part came about cos im so protective of my kid. Not that night but the run up to it where there had been issues and confrontations due to their lack of respect for the fact i had a kid living in the block. I buy my kid overly expensive things cos i dont want people thinking "awww bless,if that kid had a mum he would have this that and the next thing". I try compensate and i likely over compensate. But no way do i want a spoiled brat kinda kid.I keep it real with him as only i know how. Iv gave up almost every part of my life to raise him and dont grumble cos i need him and he needs me. I literally no longer have a social life,thats by choice though. After the past few years i just thought "fuck it,time to concentrate on what i have and not what i dont have". Iv wasted the first half of my life and realise i could die young possibly.So every moment i try make sure if i leave this realm tomorrow that iv raised my by good,hes not missed out and above all he gets lotsa loe. Its grew me as a person and its growing him as a person.My relationship with him is VERY real,very matter of fact and i dont mollycuddle him too much.I raise my kid the way i WISH i had been raised and thats an important point Jugg. Out of all the kids i know who are being raised from single parent families the one thing most of us have in common is we all wanna raise our kids better than we were raised. Break the cycle. Although to be fair to your viewpoint,theres some CUNTS of signle parents out there,as there are married parents to though. Im the first parent at school to buy school photographs and im the first one there cheering on the kids at sports days and parennts evenings etc. If theres free time i do shit with my boy,he IS my social life,lol.Even people i do meet its usually in some way through him lol. I hit the cinema,park alsorts of places with him.I dont get free time for myself and now that im working and pursuing a career its even harder but its cos i want to be a good example to him that i go all out. If theres a school trip but its not mandatory im the first parent to pay the fees. I so over compensate but i do that NOT to mollycuddle my boy or to make myself feel better but so that HE never notices any differences between him and other kids. Sure he asks why his friends have mums and dads but i simply tell him i loved him too much to let him go out my sight lol. I'll say one thing fr my boy. After the eventful short life he has had and witnessed.Hes turned out better than alright ....and i wont rest of my laurels there.Im not some kinda perfect Dad,far from it.But i do bust my balls in pursuit of being the perfect Dad. This is why i disagreed with you in the 1st place cos theres a LOT of single parents who do the same and they do what they can to make sure their kids dont suffer through their relatiosnhip breakdowns. Some parents actually make the decision to split with the other parent in the first place due to the fact they dont like the lifestyle their kids becoming accustomed too.We all make judgments,some we make from personal experience,others from what we see around us. I always try keep my glass half full. Its always gonna get better in my eyes,never worse. Thats my mantra:tvlaugh: Its all good Jugg
Thats you over the limit,temp ban:tvlaugh: Just to clarify,is summing up ones opinion of another as being ignorant, flaming? If so then theres a few other strikes should be given out in this thread. :5eek: Fuck it,these type of threads generate heat with the topic. Im gonna call Admin discretion and leave that one off your record Res Besides far worse has been said in this thread than calling someone Ignorant. CC told Canna to go save whales Like how hank started the fire then walked
